Face shield

Gers

Gers said:

Don't know where you are, in Scotland we have this advice:

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-phase-3-staying-safe-and-protecting-others/pages/face-coverings/

What is a face covering?

A face covering can be any covering of the mouth and nose that is made of cloth or other textiles and through which you can breathe.

Religious face coverings that cover the mouth and the nose count as face coverings for these purposes.

You may also use, if you prefer, a face visor but it must cover your nose and mouth completely.

Nicola Sturgeon has just announced that visors alone are not enough - another covering over mouth and nose must also be used.

happybagger

Move to Wales
No face masks, and unlike England and Scotland which have brought masks in, havn't seen a big jump in cases.

sweetsand

Pollycat said:

jon81uk said:

Also in realistic terms, it would be better than nothing. If you genuinely have a condition than makes you anxious or otherwise difficult to wear a mask, then a visor would be better than no face covering at all. Given that those with these conditions could wear no mask at all but try for 2m distancing instead, a visor that covers the mouth and nose should allow for 1m distancing.

These are the exemptions listed on Gov.uk:

• You do not need to wear a face covering if you have a legitimate reason not to. This includes (but is not limited to):
• young children under the age of 11 (Public Health England do not recommended face coverings for children under the age of 3 for health and safety reasons)
• not being able to put on, wear or remove a face covering because of a physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability
• if putting on, wearing or removing a face covering will cause you severe distress
• if you are travelling with or providing assistance to someone who relies on lip reading to communicate
• to avoid harm or injury, or the risk of harm or injury, to yourself or others
• to avoid injury, or to escape a risk of harm, and you do not have a face covering with you
• to eat or drink if reasonably necessary
• in order to take medication
• if a police officer or other official requests you remove your face covering

I wouldn't think anyone would find a face covering comfortable. I certainly find it very uncomfortable.

There are some that are more comfortable than others and rather than complain about wearing one, try to think about wearing one and how you are not only helping yourself but importantly those around you. I don't like to wear a face covering but had to accept the law and it makes a lot of sense, ie by wearing a mask and SD you are respecting others and helping everyone reduce the virus. Positive thinking certainly helps. Wearing a shield with a mask protect you even more as well as others.

sweetsand

GibbsRule_No3. said:

I am wearing a clear face visor when I shop. Used it in the PO and M&S yesterday it even now works with my Apple Pay face recognition on my phone. So much more comfortable than the cloth face mask that I had to wear (for obvious reasons) when collecting my new glasses. Mine is just a plastic sheet, with a small, connected plastic forehead band and a thin elastic band to keep it on. I roll the sheet up and keep it in a cutdown plastic drinks bottle in the mesh pocket on my rucksack. In fact where it is rolled it now fits closely on the sides of my face, but does not dig in. I don’t see why this type could not be worn by people who say they have asthma or other problems. I forget I am wearing it, it is so comfortable. Little bit sweaty on the forehead when you remove it but nothing like the mouth wearing cloth mask. Comes down far enough. You also don’t keep touching it like I did with the cloth one.

https://flatshield.co.uk/

This is what I am wearing

Great, thanks for your post really helpful.

mandiesnackz

Face shields don't offer as much 'protection' due to no seal. 
However face mask are horrible as someone that has been wearing them for 20 years I agree. Now I have to wear an FFP3 mask ( Like a gas mask, car sprayers mask kinda thing ). Now that's hideous!
Not sure why people told to wear basic masks if obvs not good enough in medical setting.
After few mins when mask is moist from condensation they are no longer effective. I've still caught colds etc from pts in the past.
I think masks give false security, people now closer to each other in shops etc and hand washing has decreased!
But I put 1 on to keep others happy. To me I'd prefer it not to be a thing. Also the amount of people wearing them wrong kinda makes them even more pointless!

unforeseen

Not sure why people told to wear basic masks if obvs not good enough in medical setting

Primarily because they reduce the distance that airborne droplets that you breathe out can travel thus increasing the safety margin when social distancing. 

Pollycat

sweetsand said:

There are some that are more comfortable than others and rather than complain about wearing one, try to think about wearing one and how you are not only helping yourself but importantly those around you. I don't like to wear a face covering but had to accept the law and it makes a lot of sense, ie by wearing a mask and SD you are respecting others and helping everyone reduce the virus. Positive thinking certainly helps. Wearing a shield with a mask protect you even more as well as others.

I really haven't complained about wearing a face covering.

I merely said that I found them very uncomfortable.

My exact words.

Pollycat said:

I wouldn't think anyone would find a face covering comfortable. I certainly find it very uncomfortable.

I've not said I'm not wearing a face mask.

I am wearing a face mask as per Government mandate.

Just as you say you are.

How I actually feel when I'm wearing it is immaterial to anyone else. The fact that I'm wearing one is sufficient.

So...that's all good then.

JamoLew

mandiesnackz said:

Face shields don't offer as much 'protection' due to no seal. 
However face mask are horrible as someone that has been wearing them for 20 years I agree. Now I have to wear an FFP3 mask ( Like a gas mask, car sprayers mask kinda thing ). Now that's hideous!
Not sure why people told to wear basic masks if obvs not good enough in medical setting.
After few mins when mask is moist from condensation they are no longer effective. I've still caught colds etc from pts in the past.
I think masks give false security, people now closer to each other in shops etc and hand washing has decreased!
But I put 1 on to keep others happy. To me I'd prefer it not to be a thing. Also the amount of people wearing them wrong kinda makes them even more pointless!

Well said

Dr_Crypto

There is some evidence that they aren’t particularly effective in isolation. 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200806-are-face-shields-effective-against-covid-19

mobilejo

As there are essentially no real world consequences to not wearing anything at all, I say crack on with the visor or whatever you're happy with. Larger chain shops aren't challenging people without masks - they have no interest in acting as unpaid police officers and I can't blame them. So I would be surprised if they challenged anyone wearing a visor.