EURO VI

AdrianC

Grumpy_chap said:

This looks like it may come out to bite me soon as they are auditing driving licences and vehicles and the questions specifically require Y/N for EURO 6 and for ULEZ.

ULEZ is easy to check from a reliable source (and my car is OK):
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/

For EURO 6, I can't find a similar checker that necessarily has the full and correct database behind it.

This is a petrol car? Then Euro4 is the threshold for ULEZ compliance.
Euro6 is the threshold for diesels.

For petrols, the only difference between Euro5 and 6 emissions is the maximum particulate count - 5 didn't have one. Everything else is the same.

Grumpy_chap

macman said:

Whether of course they actually physically check vehicles entering the site is another matter..it may just be a box-ticking exercise.

Possibly, but the form is not just the ULEZ and EURO 6 questions, but also vehicle make, model, petrol / diesel, registration plate, year of first registration and then the two questions EURO 6 compliant and ULEZ compliant.

They do check goods vehicles on entry to site (> 3.5tonne) and are now tightening up reporting on cars and vans.  So, the form is the next step I'd imagine before they apply some form of enforcement.  Given everyone is on short fixed term contracts, if they want to enforce, they can simply add a clause in the next fixed term and it is then very much take it or leave it.

AdrianC said:

This is a petrol car? Then Euro4 is the threshold for ULEZ compliance.
Euro6 is the threshold for diesels.

For petrols, the only difference between Euro5 and 6 emissions is the maximum particulate count - 5 didn't have one. Everything else is the same.

Yes, my car is EURO 4 petrol.
In fact, it is obvious the ULEZ-compliance question is superfluous if they require EURO 6 (regardless of diesel or petrol).

I am looking to understand the cheapest way to comply.  While my mileage is so low (< 500 miles this year 2021 so far), that may well be hire car as required.  There is also a "triviality" exemption which I may be able to apply while not travelling much.

jimjames

Grumpy_chap said:

Scrapit said:

It may be one of their KPI's with regards to their environmental management plan. Large construction projects such as HS2 will have these sorts of requirements for every vehicle entering their sites.

Exactly this.
But I think I need to go with the solution of park nearby and walk in to site...

There may also be an issue with neighbours if people are parking in nearby residential streets to avoid using the company parking on site

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FWIW some manufacturers did make their cars meet Euro VI standards before it came into force in 2015, I had a long struggle with Birmingham council to get my 64 plate Euro VI compliant (it actually is significantly better) car exempt, mainly because it turned out that the car had NO Euro rating at all, so was being flagged as liable for charges. They / the DVLA seem to have finally sorted it now.

Can't you just park off site somewhere sensible (i.e. not just on neighbouring property) and walk, or even ride a bike into the site?

kingfisher99

I have a 2016 car which has a Euro 6 engine. I am buying a caravan and read about some caravaners who have had problems with their caravan fridge not working and their caravan batteries being discharged while on a long journey as the car effectively discharges the caravan battery due to the car battery being maintained at about 80% during normal driving so as to take up additional charge when breaking. This seems a fundamental problem for car/caravan manufactures. Does anyone know what the solution is?

Grumpy_chap

kingfisher99 said:

I have a 2016 car which has a Euro 6 engine. I am buying a caravan and read about some caravaners who have had problems with their caravan fridge not working and their caravan batteries being discharged while on a long journey as the car effectively discharges the caravan battery due to the car battery being maintained at about 80% during normal driving so as to take up additional charge when breaking. This seems a fundamental problem for car/caravan manufactures. Does anyone know what the solution is?

I think that could benefit from a separate thread as the query does not seem well-related to this thread.

AdrianC

kingfisher99 said:

I have a 2016 car which has a Euro 6 engine. I am buying a caravan and read about some caravaners who have had problems with their caravan fridge not working and their caravan batteries being discharged while on a long journey as the car effectively discharges the caravan battery due to the car battery being maintained at about 80% during normal driving so as to take up additional charge when breaking. This seems a fundamental problem for car/caravan manufactures. Does anyone know what the solution is?

Sounds like a smart alternator thing. It's often discussed among the motorhome lot, who've traditionally used simple voltage-sensing split charge relays to separate the leisure battery when the engine's not running, stopping the main battery being run flat. A caravanner would have just unplug the caravan from the tow car to achieve the same result.

The solution is a battery-to-battery charger in the caravan.