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Civil Enforcement Final Reminder, but no Letter Before Action received and no clue as to the offence

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  • I have sent them a SAR by Royal Mail, with copy of V5C attached. Thank you all for your help so far!
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    so ... when you get the SAR info you then complain to the landowners .....  in the mean time why not start to read through the court action section of the newbies thread so that you are prepared ...

    Ralph B)
  • Would love to hear how this plays out for you. I have had exactly the same letter, no previous letters before, no details on the letter as to where I parked etc., same date of letter and exact same cost to pay £170. Sounds scammy to me but in the meantime I'll be doing the exact same thing and emailing a SAR to see if I can get any more details! 
  • Redx
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    It's about the vehicle , not you

    You received the ntk as keeper , not as driver , they have no idea who was driving the vehicle , so keep it that way
  • UPDATE -- GOOD NEWS
    I just got a reply to my SAR, with photos and everything. It refers to a parking offence from 30th May 2019 (!), involving my _previous_ car, and was sent to my _last but one_ address. The good news is, the photos show that it was not my car! It's the same make and model, but appears to be grey or silver instead of white. The front plate has an F that an AI could mistake for a P, because of a retaining bolthead. But the rear plate clearly shows an F where my reg number has a P.
    So who should I reply to, and how?
  • Redx
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    Similar thing happened to my brother with Smart parking , incorrect vehicle identification , cancelled at the initial appeal
  • Wow, Fruitcake, all that is above my pay grade! I think I will go with nosferatu's more measured response. But thank you anyway.
  • Umkomaas
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    Wow, Fruitcake, all that is above my pay grade! I think I will go with nosferatu's more measured response. But thank you anyway.
    You need to be firing as many live rounds as possible, otherwise this could drag on for ages. No single bullet kills these critters. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Here is what I sent them:
    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I have just received your reply to my Subject Access Request, with accompanying photos. If you take the trouble to examine those photos, you will see that the registration number of the car in question is XXXX XFX, not XXXX XPX. The front plate has what appears to be a retaining bolthead obscuring the F, which might have caused your number plate recognition software to mistake it for a P; but it should not have fooled your human staff. And in any case, the rear plate clearly and unambiguously reads XXXX XFX.

    So this is not my car, and never has been. You are therefore instructed to cancel this PCN. In addition, you are in breach of the Data Protection Act 2018, as you never had cause to access my VRM. Any further notices will be harassment, and a continued breach of the DPA2018.

    You are required to respond within 14 days, stating that the PCN is cancelled. Failure to do so, and you must treat this as a Letter Before Action for the breach of DPA2018 and harassment, and for which the sum of £500 will be claimed.

    Yours faithfully,

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