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  • Redx
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    edited 1 August 2020 at 6:26PM
    Redx said:
    Zzps are a debt collection company , so can sub contract for the claimant , but any alleged debt stays with the claimant , the parking company
    Yes I'm aware of who they are...what I was unsure of is Section 11 1(c) of POFA requires the claimant to satisfy the proper means of obtaining a keeper's details ie through an application to the Secretary of State through one of it's agencies (DVLA) however in this instance the claimant hasnt followed that process but seemed to have imported the Keeper details from ZZPS (a third party) if I'm making any sense

    if they belong to an ATA then they can access the DVLA database, so check that the PPC is a member of one of them , then check if the parties involved are too, everyone in the AOS list of both trade bodies can access DVLA data , once per pcn , so either the PPC does it , or they sub contract it
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  • KeithP
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    edited 1 August 2020 at 6:51PM
    From the little you have left showing, it looks to me that they did get the keeper's details from the DVLA  - via ZZPS, who are BPA AOS members, as REDX explained.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 1 August 2020 at 6:56PM
    They are alowed to do that, as long as the data came from the DVLA, which it did.
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  • They are alowed to do that, as long as the data came from the DVLA, which it did.
    Thank you
  • KeithP said:
    From the little you have left showing, it looks to me that they did get the keeper's details from the DVLA  - via ZZPS, who are BPA AOS members, as REDX explained.
    Thank you
  • Redx said:
    Redx said:
    Zzps are a debt collection company , so can sub contract for the claimant , but any alleged debt stays with the claimant , the parking company
    Yes I'm aware of who they are...what I was unsure of is Section 11 1(c) of POFA requires the claimant to satisfy the proper means of obtaining a keeper's details ie through an application to the Secretary of State through one of it's agencies (DVLA) however in this instance the claimant hasnt followed that process but seemed to have imported the Keeper details from ZZPS (a third party) if I'm making any sense

    if they belong to an ATA then they can access the DVLA database, so check that the PPC is a member of one of them , then check if the parties involved are too, everyone in the AOS list of both trade bodies can access DVLA data , once per pcn , so either the PPC does it , or they sub contract it
    Thank you
  • Is the Southampton case officially known as the Britannia v Crosby Case? 
  • Umkomaas
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    Is the Southampton case officially known as the Britannia v Crosby Case? 
    Depends what you mean by 'officially', and in what context.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Umkomaas said:
    Is the Southampton case officially known as the Britannia v Crosby Case? 
    Depends what you mean by 'officially', and in what context.
    I mean, the case regularly referred to as the Southampton case in the various forum threads - is it actually called the Britannia v Crosby? As I cannot find out called 'Southampton' 
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