dental dam?

Gers

thepurplepixie said:

Do you the think Govt know she is exempt?  Maybe someone should let them know.  Cerwiden isn't familiar to me.

😂

Spelt it wrong - Ceriwiden, have a wee search.

Mind you - the wearing of face coverings in Wales is only mandatory on public transport, not in shops etc.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52631835 Down to an individual's choice.  Daddy or chips?  Life or a ventilator?

Marmaduke123

Ms_Mop_123 said

Toothsmith your right about faceshields, everything just escapes out of the bottom.  I've got a hair appointment booked mid August, first one since lockdown and my main concern is when I have it washed.  I've been told the girl washing hair only wears a face shield. I'll have my head back in the basin with her directly over my face washing my hair, all of her breath, droplets etc will be pouring out the bottom of her mask directly onto my face, I'm going to take a disposable mask and ask her to wear it.  

When I had my hair done I was asked to wash it myself at home before the appointment. My hairdresser just damped it down again before cutting it.
Would that be a possibility for you?

cbrown372

Gers said:

thepurplepixie said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Ms_Mop_123 said:

Just found out you don't have to wear a mask at the hairdressers, it's your choice, that's really shocked me.  Someone I know had just been to where I have my hair done and she said it was up to her whether or not to wear one.  I've googled it and she was right, really can't understand why hairdressers are exempt.  

Each to their own - and no-one to stir it re other peoples choices.

Nor is it necessary for those of us that don't wear masks to come up with a load of references (which we could - because they are out there in the public domain) that prove masks are useless basically.

We respect other peoples choices and they should respect ours.

It isn't about choice though is it, the govt make the rules not you, the dentist or the hairdresser.

Do you not know that the laws of the land don't apply to Cerwiden?  She likes her own laws and completely disregards the ones made by those elected to make them. 

More banging your head against a brick wall is a waste of time and energy. 😂

It was ceridwen or more recently before this user name, moneytooshorttomention. Same style, same awful to tone to posts.

My hair appt is 5 August, I don't get my hair washed at the hairdresser anyway so it will be dampened then cut and styled and the girl will get a nice tip for just being there for me. I will have a card or cash in my pocket which ever she wants and a mask on when outside the door as requested.

thepurplepixie

It seems polite to me to wear a mask, respect to other people.  I suppose we all view things differently.

Gers

If you don't like wearing a mask you'll hate wearing a ventilator! 

thepurplepixie

Very true Gers.  Actually masks don't worry me, I forget to take them off when I come out of shops, maybe I just have comfortable masks?

Ms_Mop_123

Marmaduke123. I asked when I made the appointment if I could wash my hair before I go and then just have it dampened down but was told it's best for them to wash it.  I've been told the man who will cut and blow dry my hair wears a mask and a shield.  I'm going to ask for him to wash it for me and explain why.  I am one of the people who are supposedly at high risk, (on saying that though, I'm 95%  certain now that the drugs I am on do give me some protection if I catch the virus), I'm sure they'll understand my request, I've been going there for over 30 years now. 

Toothsmith your right about someone just producing a mask our their handbag, I wasn't thinking, I know it would be an unused one but the girl wouldn't. 

sweetsand

cbrown372 said:

brook2jack2 said:

You do know that masks are to protect other people from you , rather than to protect you and that they will be compulsory in shops in England soon? By asking a hairdresser to see you and you don't have to wear a mask you are asking them at a financially very difficult time to put their business ahead of protecting their health and their other customers health, and all for a haircut.

Many people wear a mask all day with no problems at all and if you start acclimatising yourself now by wearing one for a minute at a time and then building up , you should be able to tolerate one pretty quickly rather than dismissing wearing it out of hand . You will then be doing your bit to protect other people the way you would expect to be protected yourself. 

Many people believe that wearing a mask cuts down on oxygen , which is a total myth see this https://youtu.be/vy7DlcCUBrk

You are wasting breath I'm afraid, this is the person who wouldn't go her Mother's funeral as it would require wearing a mask on public transport to get there.  I hope her hairdresser's other clients don't hear about her refusing to wear a mask as I for sure would boycot that hairdresser and let everyone I know exactly why. She was talking about buying a wig rather than get her hair cut and buying a car to get to the funeral, despite never having driven in all her 40 plus years of holding a licence, rather than using public transport and having the use of an OAP bus pass. It beggars belief but fortunately there aren't many people around the country who are equally as selfish to the public that serve them be it key workers, health workers, shop workers, hairdressers and indeed dentists and I'm sure glad I won't come across her in my day to day life.

I fail to understand why you have posted something like this as it is totally uncalled for. Sure, you may disagree with the poster but to post some awful stuff like that is completely unnecessary.
FYI, I disagree with the poster but never dream of saying anything even remotely close to what you have post as it is shocking to put it mildly.

onwards&upwards

pramsay13 said:

If you feel strange about things being put in your mouth you should maybe be asking before booking if there are any changes to normal procedures during this time.

To be fair to the OP, no medical professional should ever start a procedure or introduce a device into a person's body without getting their consent and ensuring they understand what the item is for and why it is needed. 

No matter how useful or important the device is, you don't just do it without warning!  Same goes for injections, blood tests, thermometers, catheters or anything else! 

onwards&upwards

brook2jack2 said:

Because of the risks to patients if carrying out eg root treatment without rubber dam eg inhaling a small instrument , because patient refusing is no medical legal defense and so can still sue, our medical defense says we should refuse treatment if patient refuses rubber dam in ordinary times. 

In normal circumstances , a filling is less cut and dried but there is no doubt rubber dam improves outcomes for the patient. 

If a patient can not tolerate rubber dam then no root treatment and certain other fillings , you may need to use a material that's less durable .

However in covid times because rubberdam cuts the aerosol down by over 95% so making it safer for staff and just as importantly the next patient in the surgery (after an hours fallow time and disinfection ) , and anyone coming in contact with the patient after the procedure as much,much less aerosol is created , in our practice we would refuse treatment. Our operating procedures are laid down by the chief dental officers and to provide aerosol treatment we must abide by this , and to protect other staff and patients , as well as myself even if I were not compelled I would make this part of my conditions of treatment as the scientific evidence for protection is overwhelming along with the improvement in outcome for the patient. 

Very sad that people with PTSD due to sexual assault will very likely lose their access to dental care now.