Premier Parking Solutions - Im Now Panicking

nosferatu1001

No, not a court "stamped letter".  A court claim form. It will be a crappy print out. 
OR come back if you get a letter before claim.
Your credit score can obviously not be affected unless you lose a court claim, because thats the "J" in CCJ!

Coupon-mad

They are also ringing me, how did they get my phone number. Im guessing this can be seen as harassment. 

Yes.  Block them.  If they get around that with a new number, tell the debt collector the debt is disputed and denied and they MUST return the file to the parking firm and stop harassing you immediately.

I am worried about my credit score. I have worked so hard lately using the fantastic advice on this website to improve it. 

Nothing happens to your credit score even if you get a claim and defend and - highly unlikely - lose the case (because the 1% of people who lose then pay within 30 days what the Judge orders - and it doesn't include the fake added £60 AND it doesn't leave any CCJ, not even a smudge!). 

The only CCJ danger comes when people move house and don't tell the parking firm.  Don't be that person!

Tommy8

Hi All,
The recent status of my progress in this is i received a letter of claim from BW Legal dated 11 December 2020. 
I have sent off a SAR to PPS and informed BW LEGAL of this. BW LEGAL have acknowledged this and given me the 30 days however nothing back from the SAR yet. 
Reading through the next steps i have a bit of anxiety because the defence seems to be quite focused on inadequate signage etc. Annoyingly the road leading up to the car park and the entrance have got rather clear signage.
I'm just wondering if I stand a chance using the defence template and process?
Best Regards
Tom

Le_Kirk

If you research SAR, you will find that companies have 30 days to respond.  If PPS are outside of this timescale, send them another e-mail giving them 7 days to respond else you will report them to ICO.  If they are inside the 30 days, just wait a bit longer.
What else will you use as a defence?   This goes in paragraph 2 & 3 on the template defence.

Tommy8

Le_Kirk said:

If you research SAR, you will find that companies have 30 days to respond.  If PPS are outside of this timescale, send them another e-mail giving them 7 days to respond else you will report them to ICO.  If they are inside the 30 days, just wait a bit longer.
What else will you use as a defence?   This goes in paragraph 2 & 3 on the template defence.

Hi Le_Kirk,
Thank you for your reply, it is very much appreciated. 
Whether these points are valid to be a defence, i was thinking the following:
1) It was mid may, most lockdown rules were in place so the car park was almost empty. Hourly cost to park is 80 pence. Therefore my staying there 15 to 18 minutes over my time cannot create "damages" to the amount they are asking for. Realistically i did not prevent them from missing out on a "sale" in my overtime period. 
2) Are there any rules on "grace period"? 
I have attached pictures of the signage. Top picture is sign next to pay and display machine. Bottom picture is sign at entrance to car park. 
Cheers
Tom

Le_Kirk

You cannot argue "no loss".  You need to decide why you did not P&D.  No one can make that decision for you.  You can try signage but you have posted some pretty clear pictures so that might be a non-starter.  Everything else is included in the template defence which you will find as one of the first five threads on page one of the forum.

Coupon-mad

Therefore my staying there 15 to 18 minutes over my time 

Don't say that. 

Do you mean in fact that it took you, say,  9 minutes to find a space, park and go over and read the signs and pay at the machine or by app, and then no more than 9 minutes to exit after expiry of paid-for time? 

Or are you saying that your ticket expired at, say, 1pm and you drove past the exit camera at, say. 1.18pm?  

Why are you not in the habit of simply covering your rear numberplate when driving out of private car parks, as many people do?  Not unlawful.

Tommy8

Le_Kirk said:

You cannot argue "no loss".  You need to decide why you did not P&D.  No one can make that decision for you.  You can try signage but you have posted some pretty clear pictures so that might be a non-starter.  Everything else is included in the template defence which you will find as one of the first five threads on page one of the forum.

Ah ok so its looking not so defendable for me. The additional 15 minutes was an annoying mistake on my behalf, we sat down for a picnic and lost track of time. If i was as clued up on contract based parking firms as i am now i wouldnt have gone anywhere near that place or would have made sure we stick to the rules agreed.  
Is everything else in the template still worth me trying or shall I admit defeat? 
Funny thing is and im not sure whether this is in my favor, recently visited the place again to see if i could find more info / evidence and the car park in question has the builder fences surrounding it with a sign saying permanently closed. 
I have also got in contact with so many different places to find out who the landowners are and nobody seems to know. 
Cheers
Tom

Coupon-mad

 ok so its looking not so defendable for me.

That's not what we said at all.

Is everything else in the template still worth me trying or shall I admit defeat? 

I'm not even answering that.  Cleary you cannot have read the template defence or your replies here if you think you have no case and should pay then extortionate inflated amount to avoid likely winning in court.  The fact it's now a building site makes no odds.

Tommy8

Coupon-mad said:

Therefore my staying there 15 to 18 minutes over my time 

Don't say that. 

Do you mean in fact that it took you, say,  9 minutes to find a space, park and go over and read the signs and pay at the machine or by app, and then no more than 9 minutes to exit after expiry of paid-for time? 

Or are you saying that your ticket expired at, say, 1pm and you drove past the exit camera at, say. 1.18pm?  

Why are you not in the habit of simply covering your rear numberplate when driving out of private car parks, as many people do?  Not unlawful.

Not to sound de-motivated as im always a huge fan of sticking it to firms like this, given that the car park is slightly small and was empty, i dont think i can use those timings as a defence. Are they unrealistic given the circumstances?
However i am interested in seeing the results back from the SAR as im wondering if the cameras are on the stretch of road before the entrance (its hard to tell in the picture in my intial letter and i cant remember from my walk about the other day). Reason for this curiosity is the car park is a turning off of this road, i could argue i left the car park and "turned right" to view the new housing estate being built before turning around and exiting . . . . . hmmm food for thought. I will revisit the place tommorow to see if the cameras are still there. 
I did not know covering you licence plate is an option? I will do that all the time now!
Cheers
Tom