Installing a new electric oven on other side of kitchen. Can I still wire to existing 13a spur?

7NX

I have an existing electric oven, wired into a 13a spur with switch. The oven broke this morning, and I'm now looking at Installing a new oven on the other side of the kitchen in a new appliance tower. However, there is no existing spur or socket to use on this side of the kitchen.
Can I / is it safe to, use a very long cable to wire into the original 13a spur, and simply run the long length of cable (approx 6m) under the existing cabinets to reach the new appliance tower on the other side of the kitchen? 

Hopefully the question makes sense?

Thanks in advance!

Hasbeen

7NX said:

I have an existing electric oven, wired into a 13a spur with switch. The oven broke this morning, and I'm now looking at Installing a new oven on the other side of the kitchen in a new appliance tower. However, there is no existing spur or socket to use on this side of the kitchen.
Can I / is it safe to, use a very long cable to wire into the original 13a spur, and simply run the long length of cable (approx 6m) under the existing cabinets to reach the new appliance tower on the other side of the kitchen? 

Hopefully the question makes sense?

Thanks in advance!

If I am reading your post correctly? You want to wire in a 6m length of flexible cable to the spur and put a socket on the end to plug the new oven in?  

Is this new oven that you are putting in an "appliance tower" a single or double oven?

7NX

It would be hardwired into the spur, but essentially yes. Exactly same as the normal process for installation, except I'm exploring the option of a long cable to the existing spur, rather than having to have a new spur installed.

FreeBear

Hasbeen said:  If I am reading your post correctly? You want to wire in a 6m length of flexible cable to the spur and put a socket on the end to plug the new oven in?  

Certainly not recommended or advisable to run an oven off what is basically an extension lead.

If it caused a fire, neither the manufacturer nor the household insurance company would accept liability. Please don't do this. Consult an electrician and have the job done properly.

7NX

I don't think this is equivalent to using an extension lead? I'm not plugging anything additional in, I'm not wiring a plug to the end?

I'm talking about wiring the oven exactly as it would normally be, but using a longer flex as the spur would be further away from the new location?

Robin9

But the existing installation is wrong to start with. Your oven should be wired to a dedicated 32a circuit.
Consult an electrician.

jimi_man

Robin9 said:

But the existing installation is wrong to start with. Your oven should be wired to a dedicated 32a circuit.
Consult an electrician.

Not always so. He's going to buy a new oven. Some ovens (I think below 2.9kw) can come fitted with a 13A plug and be used in a normal socket. Other ovens can be wired to a 13A FCU. Some require a dedicated circuit.. 

In answer to the original question, when you buy the new oven the Manufacturers Instructions are key. If it comes with a plug, then you can plug it in. If the instructions say wire to an FCU then that's what you have to do. If it says you need a dedicated circuit then you need to do that.

The point being that you need to check the instructions as they will be correct. 

In terms of extending the spur, are you talking about adding the cable AFTER the FCU?

neilmcl

Robin9 said:

But the existing installation is wrong to start with. Your oven should be wired to a dedicated 32a circuit.
Consult an electrician.

Really? Where are you getting this from, do you have knowledge regarding the OP's specific oven?

fenwick458

whats the power rating of the new oven?

7NX

I bought the oven today. The manual said just to wire it to a 13a plug, so I just wired it directly the existing 13a fused spur (dedicated circuit) and it's working fine. When I eventually move the oven to the other side of the kitchen, I plan to wire in to the same spur, but use a long piece of flex, clipped around and under the existing cabinets to reach the other side of the kitchen.

Hasbeen

7NX said:

I bought the oven today. The manual said just to wire it to a 13a plug, so I just wired it directly the existing 13a fused spur (dedicated circuit) and it's working fine. When I eventually move the oven to the other side of the kitchen, I plan to wire in to the same spur, but use a long piece of flex, clipped around and under the existing cabinets to reach the other side of the kitchen.

So the new oven came without a plug? The manual said to wire it to a plug but instead you wired it to the existing spur?

How are you going to join this longer 6 metre piece of flex to supply the oven? Would say this plan is not great!

Is there a fused connection unit feeding the spur, if so can a new longer 2.5mm T&E cable be attached to existing and pulled through from the spur to the FCU. Then from the redundant spur opening, from there to the new location with a new spur on wall to connect oven to? Connect new to existing FCU  and new direct to new spur?