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Scottish power blocking my switch to British Gas

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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,059 Forumite
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    edited 30 June 2020 at 3:28PM
    Gerry1 said:
    Cardew said:
    Gerry1 said:
    I don't understand the basis for those 'Which?' figures.  Given that electricity costs roughly 4 - 5 times as much as gas per kWh, I'd expect a similar variance in annual costs.
    The Euro energy efficiency label says my gas dryer uses 261kWh (based on 160 cycles per year) which would cost me the princely sum of  £6.19.  An electric dryer using 261kWh of electricity would cost me £31.62.  The comparison isn't 100% exact (the label doesn't split the consumption into gas and electricity, and the efficiency of an electric dryer may be different) but it should be close enough.
    Air to Air heat pumps can achieve remarkably high COP* figures even using outside ambient temperature air.
    * COP Co-efficient of Performance gives the increase in heat output. e.g 1kWh input  giving 5kWh output gives a COP=5.
    So taking in air at indoor temperatures the washing machine heat pump will have a very high COP and the heat output in kWH will be many times the input in kWh.
    So who makes a heat pump dryer with an annual consumption of 261kW/5 = 52.2kWh?
    If someone only needs 261kWh of heat per year to dry their clothes, I suspect all heat pump tumble dryers will produce that amount of heat using 52.2kWh or less. The whole point of a heat pump on a tumble dryer is that the output is many times the input, which more than compensates for electricity costing much more than gas.

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    Hot air passes through the drum of the machine, absorbing the moisture from your clothing. After this, it passes through a number of filters, where the air is partially cooled and the moisture removed, The water that is collected is then deposited into a water tank (using the same process as a standard condenser dryer). As this is occurring, the warm air is heated back up, and circulated back to the drum. The fact that the hot air is reused means that the energy is kept within the machine instead of being allowed to escape. This process drastically reduces the energy required to operate the machine, thus reducing operating costs.



  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,848 Forumite
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    edited 30 June 2020 at 3:56PM
    Cardew said:
    If someone only needs 261kWh of heat per year to dry their clothes, I suspect all heat pump tumble dryers will produce that amount of heat using 52.2kWh or less.
    Except that they don't.  The 261kWh for the gas dryer and the 171kWh for the Miele are both official Euro ratings.
    But as the OP will no longer be able to buy one, we'd better leave it !
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