Contract terminated whilst on furlough

Wool2709

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

jjames1985

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Wool2709

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Yes. All same hours as before. 

Even as a take away only, we’ve done super well and better than expected. 

jjames1985

Wool2709 said:

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Yes. All same hours as before. 

Even as a take away only, we’ve done super well and better than expected. 

Sounds to me like they've realised that they don't need you then, as they've been open and doing well. Tough, but that's life I guess.

Wool2709

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Yes. All same hours as before. 

Even as a take away only, we’ve done super well and better than expected. 

Sounds to me like they've realised that they don't need you then, as they've been open and doing well. Tough, but that's life I guess.

Come 4th July, it will be open as eat in so will obviously require everyone back - I have seen the rota. My hours have been divided out 🤷‍♀️

poppy12345

As has already been advised, there's nothing you can do because you've worked there for less than 2 years. They obviously prefer zero hour contracts.

jjames1985

Wool2709 said:

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Yes. All same hours as before. 

Even as a take away only, we’ve done super well and better than expected. 

Sounds to me like they've realised that they don't need you then, as they've been open and doing well. Tough, but that's life I guess.

Come 4th July, it will be open as eat in so will obviously require everyone back - I have seen the rota. My hours have been divided out 🤷‍♀️

Yes, so they don't need YOU. They've obviously found that they're capable of coping with one less member of staff. Unfortunately, a lot of people are perhaps about to find out that being on furlough wasn't just the free holiday they thought it was.  It's been showing these companies that they have more staff than they need.

I'd be inclined to try and view this in the most positive light you can, there are going to be a lot of people who are going to find themselves "surplus to requirements" when companies have to actually start paying at least some of their wages themselves.  Being ahead of that curve is a good thing.  And if finding a job is tough right now, it'll be a walk in the park compared to what it'll be like when we start to see mass layoffs of previously furloughed staff.

Grumpy_chap

The OP is scared of the virus, locked away at home for 14 weeks and expressed reluctance to return to work now they are re-opening.  It is really something the OP brought upon themselves.  At least now they can stay locked at home until the virus goes away.

jjames1985

Grumpy_chap said:

The OP is scared of the virus, locked away at home for 14 weeks and expressed reluctance to return to work now they are re-opening.  It is really something the OP brought upon themselves.  At least now they can stay locked at home until the virus goes away.

Yes, and these people have been repeatedly told on here that this sort of attitude is going to be remembered by their employers and they're going to end up being the first out of the door when it comes to layoffs.  Doubt may of them listened though..

LilElvis

Wool2709 said:

jjames1985 said:

Wool2709 said:

JCS1 said:

As others are on zero hours, they have no obligation to pay them if they don't work.  One way to save overheads is therefore to reduce contracted staff.

As long as it's not for a protected characteristic, with under 2 years service, there is very little you can do other than make sure they pay what is owed.

The zero hours staff have been given hours as of July 4th 

100% of their previous hours?

Even if they have been, if business ends up being very slow, they may find those hours drying up very quickly.

Yes. All same hours as before. 

Even as a take away only, we’ve done super well and better than expected. 

And they managed this without you. Lots of companies are realising that they can easily lose some of their managers and supervisors (and their higher pay) without negatively impacting their business.