Reporting dangerous driving

TooManyPoints

It says that with the introduction of Fixed Penalties for Careless Driving, it also brings into play the consideration of a course for that offence. Officers witnessing alleged CD offences will make a recommendation to the back office for summons or FP. The back office may, based on the officer's reports, offer a course. I don't think the point is worth pawing over too much as I'm sure procedures vary from place to place and it's somewhat detracting from the OP's original question (which is my fault for discussing possible penalties).

452

TooManyPoints said:

It says that with the introduction of Fixed Penalties for Careless Driving, it also brings into play the consideration of a course for that offence. Officers witnessing alleged CD offences will make a recommendation to the back office for summons or FP. The back office may, based on the officer's reports, offer a course. I don't think the point is worth pawing over too much as I'm sure procedures vary from place to place and it's somewhat detracting from the OP's original question (which is my fault for discussing possible penalties).

But it doesn't say it must be witnessed by police. 

Scrapit

fred246 said:

This thread reminds me of a TV programme talking about car insurance. They interviewed a group of young lads stood next to their modified hot hatches asking them if they would like a 'black box' to be fitted to their vehicle. Of course none of them wanted a black box. Reasonable, law abiding citizens are happy for this sort of technology to be used. People who think the public road is a race track and all motoring rules are there to be broken aren't going to be happy.

Maybe they don't want to willingly install big brother into their vehicle? I wouldnt.

shaun_from_Africa

Scrapit said:

Maybe they don't want to willingly install big brother into their vehicle? I wouldnt.

Especially when the box can record and report incorrect information.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/insurance/car/black-box-telematics-insurance-mistakes-push-car-insurance-premiums/

bob_a_builder

452 said:

TooManyPoints said:

It says that with the introduction of Fixed Penalties for Careless Driving, it also brings into play the consideration of a course for that offence. Officers witnessing alleged CD offences will make a recommendation to the back office for summons or FP. The back office may, based on the officer's reports, offer a course. I don't think the point is worth pawing over too much as I'm sure procedures vary from place to place and it's somewhat detracting from the OP's original question (which is my fault for discussing possible penalties).

But it doesn't say it must be witnessed by police. 

Certainly doesn't need to be witnessed by police
I submitted dashcam footage of a driver overtaking a  significant Q of waiting traffic at a set of lights, and shooting thru the red light
I received notification the driver had been offered a course 

I've submitted 3 cases so far 
results
1 x driver offered course
1 x formal warning letter for offence of careless driving to driver
1 x letter of advice to register keeper

When you submit a report they do ask you to take down any references to it on social media

Car_54

bob_a_builder said:

452 said:

TooManyPoints said:

It says that with the introduction of Fixed Penalties for Careless Driving, it also brings into play the consideration of a course for that offence. Officers witnessing alleged CD offences will make a recommendation to the back office for summons or FP. The back office may, based on the officer's reports, offer a course. I don't think the point is worth pawing over too much as I'm sure procedures vary from place to place and it's somewhat detracting from the OP's original question (which is my fault for discussing possible penalties).

But it doesn't say it must be witnessed by police. 

Certainly doesn't need to be witnessed by police
I submitted dashcam footage of a driver overtaking a  significant Q of waiting traffic at a set of lights, and shooting thru the red light
I received notification the driver had been offered a course 

But that was probably a "red light" course, not careless driving. Red light offences are most often caught on camera, not witnessed by police.

AdrianC

Car_54 said:

But that was probably a "red light" course, not careless driving. Red light offences are most often caught on camera, not witnessed by police.

Both are viewed as similarly low-level offences, along with exceeding the speed limit.

Fixed penalty, where no course is offered, is the same for them all - TS10/CD10/SP30 - 3pt, £100.

452

Car_54 said:

bob_a_builder said:

452 said:

TooManyPoints said:

It says that with the introduction of Fixed Penalties for Careless Driving, it also brings into play the consideration of a course for that offence. Officers witnessing alleged CD offences will make a recommendation to the back office for summons or FP. The back office may, based on the officer's reports, offer a course. I don't think the point is worth pawing over too much as I'm sure procedures vary from place to place and it's somewhat detracting from the OP's original question (which is my fault for discussing possible penalties).

But it doesn't say it must be witnessed by police. 

Certainly doesn't need to be witnessed by police
I submitted dashcam footage of a driver overtaking a  significant Q of waiting traffic at a set of lights, and shooting thru the red light
I received notification the driver had been offered a course 

But that was probably a "red light" course, not careless driving. Red light offences are most often caught on camera, not witnessed by police.

So how do you explain those who get a course for careless driving after an accident. Did the police witness all those accidents?