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Is it time to increase the speed limit from 70mph to 80mph?

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  • MEM62
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    edited 22 June 2020 at 1:09PM

    Is it time to increase the speed limit from 70mph to 80mph?

    OK, fine by me :smiley: 

  • Ganga
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    AdrianC said:
    fred246 said:
    Stop HGVs overtaking. That's what they do in Germany.
    Have you ever been to Germany?

    BTW, they don't. Not as a blanket. There are some stretches, almost all two-lane, where there's localised bans. As there are on UK motorways...
    Are HGV,s not allowed in the second lane of a two lane motorway? i thought it was only the outside lane of a three lane motorway that they were prohibited from using. Also as for trucks being limited to 56 mph , plenty  of them have found a way to bypass this as i have seen trucks doing well over 70 mph.
  • Car_54
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    Ganga said:
    AdrianC said:
    fred246 said:
    Stop HGVs overtaking. That's what they do in Germany.
    Have you ever been to Germany?

    BTW, they don't. Not as a blanket. There are some stretches, almost all two-lane, where there's localised bans. As there are on UK motorways...
    Are HGV,s not allowed in the second lane of a two lane motorway? i thought it was only the outside lane of a three lane motorway that they were prohibited from using.
    It's actually the right hand lane of a motorway with three or more lanes.

  • Dr_Crypto said:
    I normally stick the cruise on at 80. Even when passing police cars they show no interest (although maybe that’s because I’m white, who knows any more). 

    I expect if it were raised people would sit at 90 and that’s pretty fast. 
    What about speed cameras? 
  • DoaM
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    Ganga said:
    AdrianC said:
    fred246 said:
    Stop HGVs overtaking. That's what they do in Germany.
    Have you ever been to Germany?

    BTW, they don't. Not as a blanket. There are some stretches, almost all two-lane, where there's localised bans. As there are on UK motorways...
    Are HGV,s not allowed in the second lane of a two lane motorway? i thought it was only the outside lane of a three lane motorway that they were prohibited from using.
    Notwithstanding the debate regarding nomenclature of lanes on a roadway .... in some instances there can be signage on a 2-lane highway which prevents HGVs from using the "outside" lane / lane 2 for a specified distance. For example on the A1M south of Washington Services before you get to the Durham exit. (Hopefully this Google Maps link works).
  • AdrianC
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    edited 22 June 2020 at 2:01PM
    Ganga said:
    AdrianC said:
    fred246 said:
    Stop HGVs overtaking. That's what they do in Germany.
    Have you ever been to Germany?

    BTW, they don't. Not as a blanket. There are some stretches, almost all two-lane, where there's localised bans. As there are on UK motorways...
    Are HGV,s not allowed in the second lane of a two lane motorway?
    In certain places. As in Germany.
    https://goo.gl/maps/tKHw5XBJKBxDqeAS7 for one.
    18 month trial became permanent in 2009.
    https://www.commercialmotor.com/news/hgv-m-overtaking-ban-becomes-permanent

     Highway Code rule 265 covers it generally.
    Also as for trucks being limited to 56 mph , plenty  of them have found a way to bypass this as i have seen trucks doing well over 70 mph.
    Massively unlikely. Speed limiters on HGVs are nowhere near as easy to bypass as urban legend claims - and, of course, there would be a massively obvious giveaway with the tacho. In addition, the gearing simply wouldn't allow it.
  • DoaM
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    edited 22 June 2020 at 2:05PM
    Most HGVs here in Scotland will be travelling at (a real) 60 mph as per the Highway Code requirements. Whether they've had their tachos adjusted accordingly I've no idea, but I can confirm the real 60 comment ... when I've been stuck behind them at a near-constant speed my speedo has been showing 63/64, which is a real 60 for my car.
  • daveyjp
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    Dr_Crypto said:
    I normally stick the cruise on at 80. Even when passing police cars they show no interest (although maybe that’s because I’m white, who knows any more). 

    I expect if it were raised people would sit at 90 and that’s pretty fast. 
    What about speed cameras? 
    Indicated 80 in my car is actually 75mph.  Motorway cameras will be set above that.
  • I passed my driving test way before there was an upper speed limit, and things could be pretty hairy even on the few dual carriageways that were around then. Motorways were just beginning and I did travel with my father on one when we did 9 miles in four and a half minutes quite legally. My 1953 Morris Minor would only do 60 flat out, so it was all a bit academic.
  • DoaM
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    I guess the biggest problem back then wasn't how fast you could go, rather how quickly you could stop (with drum brakes). 😮
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