Cancel TV licence to save £160

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Nick_C said:

Several problems with the form to advise the BBC that you don't need a licence...

There's nothing to stop you writing to them in whatever terms you choose, and then they can pick out from what you say the necessary words to form some kind of "declaration"... or not, at their discretion.  

However, if you're going to go to the trouble of writing to them you might as well exercise all your rights and put them in their proper place (some distance from your home).

I said above that there are 9 permutations of different rights and the ways to implement them, but there are actually more than that because in addition to the 3 headline areas (Common Law, PACE and HRA) there are lower level details like the Right to Silence and the Right to Counsel that can also be used.

Wildswimmer_Pete

pphillips said:

jimmylau8080 said:

pphillips said:

Mickey666 said:

Yes, so if they catch you watching live TV without a licence then fair enough.  But to insinuate guilt just because an aerial is plugged in is plainly against any sense of natural justice.  This whole licence/regulations/law thing is no longer fit for purpose and needs reform ASAP.

The legislation is a real headache to read but I think they are designed to make it easier to convict, same as with speeding. Doesn't matter that you didn't know you were speeding or didn't intent to speed or whatever the excuse, you are guilty simply because you were driving above the speed limit. In TV Licensing terms, it's is aimed at convicting those who have installed what the regulations call "a TV receiver" but to the exclusion of devices that connect to the internet.

Why they don't create something like Netflix? Should be easy. Those paid need to login and watch. Those didn't paid will not need to worry about the harass with threatening letters. It also saves those lots of money to hire TV licensing collector

They have, it's called Britbox. The problem is that that was a total flop as almost everyone who subscribed cancelled during the free trial. It turns out it's much easier to extract money out of people when you can threaten them with imprisonment or £1000 fine if the don't pay up. Otherwise, the reform that the BBC have suggested is to attach the licence fee to another household bill. But I don't think anything like that is remotely likely to become government policy and the BBC will eventually have to fend for itself.

BritBox carries archival content, not live TV.  I have a BritBox account so I can watch classic Dr.Who.  "Modern" Dr. Who is available on Netflix.
Neither needs a TV Licence. 

pphillips

Wildswimmer_Pete said:

pphillips said:

jimmylau8080 said:

pphillips said:

Mickey666 said:

Yes, so if they catch you watching live TV without a licence then fair enough.  But to insinuate guilt just because an aerial is plugged in is plainly against any sense of natural justice.  This whole licence/regulations/law thing is no longer fit for purpose and needs reform ASAP.

The legislation is a real headache to read but I think they are designed to make it easier to convict, same as with speeding. Doesn't matter that you didn't know you were speeding or didn't intent to speed or whatever the excuse, you are guilty simply because you were driving above the speed limit. In TV Licensing terms, it's is aimed at convicting those who have installed what the regulations call "a TV receiver" but to the exclusion of devices that connect to the internet.

Why they don't create something like Netflix? Should be easy. Those paid need to login and watch. Those didn't paid will not need to worry about the harass with threatening letters. It also saves those lots of money to hire TV licensing collector

They have, it's called Britbox. The problem is that that was a total flop as almost everyone who subscribed cancelled during the free trial. It turns out it's much easier to extract money out of people when you can threaten them with imprisonment or £1000 fine if the don't pay up. Otherwise, the reform that the BBC have suggested is to attach the licence fee to another household bill. But I don't think anything like that is remotely likely to become government policy and the BBC will eventually have to fend for itself.

BritBox carries archival content, not live TV.  I have a BritBox account so I can watch classic Dr.Who.  "Modern" Dr. Who is available on Netflix.
Neither needs a TV Licence. 

I get that but my point was that the BBC would lose millions of viewers/subscribers if the TV licence didn't exist.

jasonwatkins

jimmylau8080 said:

Recently, I got a 15% pay cut. I need to cut some of the daily expenses.

I seldom watch TV. I only watch stuff from YouTube or download Movie online. I doubt I need a TV licence and plan to cancel it. I can save around £160.

Is there anything I need to aware.

Put the letters in the bin.    If a Capita Salesperson arrives at your door you are under no legal obligation to talk to them, answer any of their questions or allow them inside your property.
They are easy to spot because they don't identify themselves initially and will ask you to confirm if you are the householder.   Ask them to identify themselves and when they do, close the door.   Nothing will happen.