Support Bubble Question

Monsterstereyebrows

As a single household I would like to join up with my daughters family as my support bubble. My daughter’s mother is also from a single household would she allowed to use my daughters family as her support bubble? (Visiting at different times).

Or is it exclusive and therefore a decision have to be made which parent can join the support bubble?

Many thanks

Andy_L

Monsterstereyebrows said:

As a single household I would like to join up with my daughters family as my support bubble. My daughter’s mother is also from a single household would she allowed to use my daughters family as her support bubble? (Visiting at different times).

Or is it exclusive and therefore a decision have to be made which parent can join the support bubble?

Many thanks

it is exclusive - somebody can only be in one bubble at a time.

Bare in mind that you can still visit if not in the bubble - you would have to just stay outdoors. 

Semple

Monsterstereyebrows said:

As a single household I would like to join up with my daughters family as my support bubble. My daughter’s mother is also from a single household would she allowed to use my daughters family as her support bubble? (Visiting at different times).

Or is it exclusive and therefore a decision have to be made which parent can join the support bubble?

Many thanks

My interpretation of the way support bubbles would work is that you can only link with one other single-person household. So in your example only you or the mother could form a support bubble, but not both.

As Bradders says though, it'll be impossible to enforce, and it'll be guaranteed that people will use their own interpretations of a "support bubble".

Frankly it's not very well thought out. For example why does it make any difference if it's a single parent household versus a two parent household... Assuming the two-parent household have followed the exact same rules as the single-parent household. There's no risk of a greater spread. I can understand not having two separate households, as that'll make a three-household link.

Sea_Shell

If all parties are happy with the risks involved (if one person has symptoms, you ALL need to isolate) I'd do what feels right.

Also, surely if there is a 14 day "break" between visits, the bubble could effectively reset?

sharpe106

from the telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/11/support-bubble-social-distancing-rules/

Thrugelmir

Semple said:

Monsterstereyebrows said:

As a single household I would like to join up with my daughters family as my support bubble. My daughter’s mother is also from a single household would she allowed to use my daughters family as her support bubble? (Visiting at different times).

Or is it exclusive and therefore a decision have to be made which parent can join the support bubble?

Many thanks

Frankly it's not very well thought out.

The objective is very simple. The biggest issue is people looking to cover eventuality which simply isn't possible. This was more or less said at the briefing last night. 

Grumpy_chap

Monsterstereyebrows said:

As a single household I would like to join up with my daughters family as my support bubble. My daughter’s mother is also from a single household would she allowed to use my daughters family as her support bubble? (Visiting at different times).

Or is it exclusive and therefore a decision have to be made which parent can join the support bubble?

Many thanks

The inverse of this question was asked on BBC Breakfast this morning:
"Both my mother and mother-in-law live alone, can they both join our support bubble?"
The answer was "no, only mother or mother-in-law but not both"

In reality, I would expect the person asking the question on BBC to meet mother and mother-in-law, but maybe not at the same time.  Similarly, the OP could discuss a similar bending of the rules with her daughter.  You can, of course, meet anyway in the garden for unlimited time at social distance and (hopefully) the sunshine will return quickly.

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bradders1983 said:

I really wouldn't over-analyse it and just do what you are comfortable with. Nobody is enforcing it.

This. As Dominic Cummings proved you can do whatever you like no matter how stupid as long as you can justify it some ridiculous way. Just tell them you were testing your eyesight or something, there is basically no way they can enforce anything now.

sharpe106

This. As Dominic Cummings proved you can do whatever you like no matter how stupid as long as you can justify it some ridiculous way. Just tell them you were testing your eyesight or something, there is basically no way they can enforce anything now.

It is always do as I say not as I do.

bradders1983

The police have come out and said they have no time to deal with "trivial" breaches. Even reporting  a serious one in South Yorkshire (like a pub still trading) involves filling in an online form that probably wont get looked at for hours.

Thrugelmir

[DELETED USER] said:

bradders1983 said:

I really wouldn't over-analyse it and just do what you are comfortable with. Nobody is enforcing it.

This. As Dominic Cummings proved you can do whatever you like no matter how stupid as long as you can justify it some ridiculous way. Just tell them you were testing your eyesight or something, there is basically no way they can enforce anything now.

There's always others looking to blame others to justify their own total lack of common sense or actions. Fortunately the majority simply quietly get on with their lives in the safest manner they can.