Rescue French bulldog

Jesterrmum1703

I took on a French Bulldog from a certain rescue on fb she has alot of health problems one being she has had to have her ear canal removal in one ear before I took her on this so called rescue told me to get the dog insured when I said I will have to inform them about previous health issues they said don't say anything but how can I lie when one ear is stitched up. Well her ear has become a massive problem the operation is over £1500 as they told me has to go a certain vets in Wolverhampton and I live in Cheshire so not a close vets I have asked for a little help they have threatened to take the dog off me when we've had her since Aug last year. Is there anything I can do ie report to charity commission or anything else please as I'm not handing the dog over as she came to me skin and bone and has now put weight on and the vet says she's ideal weight now please help with any advice 

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If you have there response in the form of writing ie an email response advising you to lie where insurance is concerned then you have a case against the charity but if its just your word against theirs I'm not sure how this would stand up. Get some legal advise as they do not sound like the most reputable charity from what has been said. 

sheramber

You took the dog on knowing about the problem so the charity  have no  liability for treatment.   
Once you take on a dog you are responsible for any future costs.

Did you infer that you could not pay for treatment so the charity said thy would take the dog back in that case? that would be a  normal response from a rescue if  someone who rehomed a dog could not pay for medical treatment.

The fact that the dog was skin and bone does not necessarily reflect on the rescue. She may have been in that  condition when they acquired her and had not been there long enough to gain  weight.

I don't see what case you would have against the  charity for them saying to lie to an insurance company. What would  you expect to  gain from that?
You could report the fact to the trustees of the charity but you would need proof of what was said and who said it.

Jesterrmum1703

Daveym79 said:

If you have there response in the form of writing ie an email response advising you to lie where insurance is concerned then you have a case against the charity but if its just your word against theirs I'm not sure how this would stand up. Get some legal advise as they do not sound like the most reputable charity from what has been said. 

I have been advised by someone who runs a dogs home that this dog should have been put on medical Foster care until the issues was sorted as they were also very much aware of all of this 

Jesterrmum1703

sheramber said:

You took the dog on knowing about the problem so the charity  have no  liability for treatment.   
Once you take on a dog you are responsible for any future costs.

Did you infer that you could not pay for treatment so the charity said thy would take the dog back in that case? that would be a  normal response from a rescue if  someone who rehomed a dog could not pay for medical treatment.

The fact that the dog was skin and bone does not necessarily reflect on the rescue. She may have been in that  condition when they acquired her and had not been there long enough to gain  weight.

I don't see what case you would have against the  charity for them saying to lie to an insurance company. What would  you expect to  gain from that?
You could report the fact to the trustees of the charity but you would need proof of what was said and who said it.

I've been advised by someone that runs a dogs home when they have dogs that have any health issues they don't just adopt them out they put them on medical Foster care as they shouldn't just pass the dogs problems onto someone else of they can't sort her out first. I can afford the operation just don't understand why if they are such a good rescue why they didn't do anything about the other ear as Ive been in contact with her previous Adopter that has told me when she had her other ear done 2 years ago she was booked in 6 months after to have this one done my point is they have let this poor dog suffer for 18 months before I got her and not sorted her out to make her comfortable and healthy 

Jesterrmum1703

sheramber said:

You took the dog on knowing about the problem so the charity  have no  liability for treatment.   
Once you take on a dog you are responsible for any future costs.

Did you infer that you could not pay for treatment so the charity said thy would take the dog back in that case? that would be a  normal response from a rescue if  someone who rehomed a dog could not pay for medical treatment.

The fact that the dog was skin and bone does not necessarily reflect on the rescue. She may have been in that  condition when they acquired her and had not been there long enough to gain  weight.

I don't see what case you would have against the  charity for them saying to lie to an insurance company. What would  you expect to  gain from that?
You could report the fact to the trustees of the charity but you would need proof of what was said and who said it.

Sorry forgot to mention said rescue had this poor dog for over 2 years and she had has around 10 different adopters in the 2 years they have had her. I have been so many lies from this rescue that I have done some research and they seem to do this with designer breeds and they charge £170 adoption fee so on my baby alone they have had 10 fees of £170 each person as its non refundable. They aren't thinking about the welfare 

Pollycat

Jesterrmum1703 said:

I've been advised by someone that runs a dogs home when they have dogs that have any health issues they don't just adopt them out they put them on medical Foster care as they shouldn't just pass the dogs problems onto someone else of they can't sort her out first. I can afford the operation just don't understand why if they are such a good rescue why they didn't do anything about the other ear as Ive been in contact with her previous Adopter that has told me when she had her other ear done 2 years ago she was booked in 6 months after to have this one done my point is they have let this poor dog suffer for 18 months before I got her and not sorted her out to make her comfortable and healthy 

But clearly the place you got your dog from doesn't have the same policy. So that's neither here nor there.

Just how much research did you do into the Facebook dog rescue before approaching them?

onwards&upwards

Nobody should take on a dog of this breed unless they are prepared to spend a hell of a lot of money on vet's fees.  Even if they are insured, the premiums are incredibly expensive due to how unhealthy this breed is, and not everything is covered anyway. 

Did you do your research on the health of the breed before taking on the dog?  Now that the dog is yours, you and you alone are responsible for its health.  Just get on with trying to help the dog and forget about blaming the rescue.  The people who are really to blame are the breeders and puppy farmers who create these poor animals.

elsien

You mention the charity commission but is the rescue actually a charity because not all of them are.
What do the terms and conditions of the agreement you signed say about ongoing medical bills, and the reasons that they can take a dog back? If it's due to not looking after it properly then your vet can easily refute that. 
If you are paying for the operation you can take the dog to whichever vets you choose. 
The adoption fee is a standard thing wilth all rescues and £170 is not a high amount. I paid £150 for mine 6 years ago. It doesn't go into lining their pockets, it goes towards ongoing costs. Where do you think the money for the original operation came from?  Although 10 homes (where have you had that information from) shows that either the rescue aren't checking out potential adopters properly, adopters aren't doing their own research, or both of those. 

Pollycat

elsien said:

You mention the charity commission but is the rescue actually a charity because not all of them are.
What do the terms and conditions of the agreement you signed say about ongoing medical bills, and the reasons that they can take a dog back? If it's due to not looking after it properly then your vet can easily refute that. 
If you are paying for the operation you can take the dog to whichever vets you choose. 
The adoption fee is a standard thing wilth all rescues and £170 is not a high amount. I paid £150 for mine 6 years ago. It doesn't go into lining their pockets, it goes towards ongoing costs. Where do you think the money for the original operation came from?  Although 10 homes (where have you had that information from) shows that either the rescue aren't checking out potential adopters properly, adopters aren't doing their own research, or both of those. 

A snip of a price for the entertainment value though, Elsien, you must admit.

How has Gitdog been doing during lockdown?

elsien

Loving it.
Sleepovers with parent to keep her company,  additional treats on her shopping list (who buys apples just so the dog has one a day??)  and amusing himself joining in with my work conference calls. Gitdog heaven.