Track and trace

Jaco70

Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this, as it isn’t finance related, but I wasn’t sure where to ask it.
I am finding the track and trace advice very confusing. If you are contacted to say you’ve been in contact with someone who’s positive, the only advice I can find is to self isolate for fourteen days. Surely another option is to book a test, test positive and then isolate for only a week, or test negative and go straight back to work. Or am I missing something?
This is wide open to malicious intent otherwise, with competitors causing problems for businesses, as one example.
An employee of mine had to have a test this week because his wife, who works in a care home and has no symptoms, tested positive. He had a test (a total shambles, they lost the test), tested negative and was back in work after only four days off. It should have been two or three, but for their incompetence. His wife was back in work after a week off.

neilmcl

Swab tests are only around 70% accurate, or rather there's over a 20% risk of them giving a false negative which means when taking a test without symptoms may not show that you actually have the virus. Also, there's a space during the incubation period where the test will not pick up anything, which is why you should only take a test if your are showing symptoms, and if it does come back negative then at least the symptoms alone should indicate that you have caught covid and you simply have a false negative test.

Track and trace is never going to be a full proof system but it's been widely used over the years and has been shown to be very effective despite it's failings.

sharpe106

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

neilmcl

sharpe106 said:

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Not sure what you mean, booked what yourself?

The advice for self-isolation should be treated as the same if someone in your household tests positive for Covid, you isolate for 14 days, even if you have a test yourself which shows your negative.

sharpe106

If you went for a test under your own steam, rather then it coming from the test and trace.

Jeremy535897

Differences here: not test and trace:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/how-long-to-self-isolate/
Test and trace
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Jaco70

neilmcl said:

sharpe106 said:

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Not sure what you mean, booked what yourself?

The advice for self-isolation should be treated as the same if someone in your household tests positive for Covid, you isolate for 14 days, even if you have a test yourself which shows your negative.

Sorry, I’ve read the five responses by I’m still just as confused.

So, if you’re contacted by T & T, you have to self isolate even if you have a negative test?For instance, a test you’ve booked yourself? 

That’s insane, as is the fact that swab testS are only 70% accurate, as stated by neilmcl, if true. That’s marginally more accurate than flipping a 50p piece in the air and seeing where it falls. I’m pleased pregnancy tests don’t have that margin for error.
There could conceivably be hundreds of thousands / millions of Brits stuck in the house for 2 weeks feeling tickety boo, when we’re clearly closer to the end of this nightmare than the beginning.

Thrugelmir

Jaco70 said:

neilmcl said:

sharpe106 said:

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Not sure what you mean, booked what yourself?

The advice for self-isolation should be treated as the same if someone in your household tests positive for Covid, you isolate for 14 days, even if you have a test yourself which shows your negative.

 

That’s insane, as is the fact that swab testS are only 70% accurate, as stated by neilmcl, if true. That’s marginally more accurate than flipping a 50p piece in the air and seeing where it falls. I’m pleased pregnancy tests don’t have that margin for error.

Hence why the disease is so deadly and every avenue has to be used to mitigate transmission. While allowing the economy to function. There's no quick fixes. 

Jeremy535897

Jaco70 said:

neilmcl said:

sharpe106 said:

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Not sure what you mean, booked what yourself?

The advice for self-isolation should be treated as the same if someone in your household tests positive for Covid, you isolate for 14 days, even if you have a test yourself which shows your negative.

Sorry, I’ve read the five responses by I’m still just as confused.

So, if you’re contacted by T & T, you have to self isolate even if you have a negative test?For instance, a test you’ve booked yourself? 

That’s insane, as is the fact that swab testS are only 70% accurate, as stated by neilmcl, if true. That’s marginally more accurate than flipping a 50p piece in the air and seeing where it falls. I’m pleased pregnancy tests don’t have that margin for error.
There could conceivably be hundreds of thousands / millions of Brits stuck in the house for 2 weeks feeling tickety boo, when we’re clearly closer to the end of this nightmare than the beginning.

Yes, if you are told to self isolate for 14 days by test and trace, that's what you should do. You only get a test if you start to have symptoms, and even if it is negative, you stay isolated for the 14 days. When questioned about this on one of the daily briefings, the point was made that testing people who don't have symptoms is not a reliable way of confirming that they don't have coronavirus.

neilmcl

sharpe106 said:

If you went for a test under your own steam, rather then it coming from the test and trace.

Well you shouldn't be seeking a test unless you have symptoms anyway.

neilmcl

Jaco70 said:

neilmcl said:

sharpe106 said:

The advice for track and trace is fairly clear the confusing part is why it is different to if you just booked it yourself.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/

Not sure what you mean, booked what yourself?

The advice for self-isolation should be treated as the same if someone in your household tests positive for Covid, you isolate for 14 days, even if you have a test yourself which shows your negative.

Sorry, I’ve read the five responses by I’m still just as confused.

So, if you’re contacted by T & T, you have to self isolate even if you have a negative test?For instance, a test you’ve booked yourself? 

That’s insane, as is the fact that swab testS are only 70% accurate, as stated by neilmcl, if true. That’s marginally more accurate than flipping a 50p piece in the air and seeing where it falls. I’m pleased pregnancy tests don’t have that margin for error.
There could conceivably be hundreds of thousands / millions of Brits stuck in the house for 2 weeks feeling tickety boo, when we’re clearly closer to the end of this nightmare than the beginning.

It's a small price to pay to nip this thing in the bud once and for all.