Bathroom refurbish quote

renfirsttimebuy

Is this quote reasonable? 

Remove existing ceiling 

& coving 

Remove existing bath , toilet, basin , radiator 

Remove existing wall and floor tiles 

Remove existing floor base cover 

Supply and install new floor base

Fix new plasterboard on ceiling, make good walls , plaster walls and ceiling to be ready for tiling and decorating 

Tanking with membrane floor and walls 

Tile walls around bath and splash back above basin 

Tile floor 

Install new bath, basin, toilet and radiator 

Run new pipes for supply water , waste pipes and central heating 

Install 4 new spot lights IP65

Decorating walls and ceiling 

All electric adaptions necessary for installation of new mirror Cabinet with lights and shaving socket 

The Client need to cover cost of 

Tiles 

Bathroom suit ( taps , bath, bath panel ,basin, toilet )

Radiator 

All the other materials and rubish clearence are including on this qoute 

TOTAL £3560.00

Mutton_Geoff

Is VAT applicable?

Doozergirl

What does 'tanking with membrane floor and walls' mean?  There's no need to 'tank' anything unless you've got a wet room going in, otherwise it's not supposed to leak!! 

The VAT question is pertinent. 

Bathrooms cost more than you think, but with only a small area of tiling it could be a bit high.   

What suite and tiles are you picking?  Some things only need one fix, but others can take three or four! You can't sensibly quote until you know what is going in.  

And where are you?  

renfirsttimebuy

@Doozergirl
I dont have a wet room going in... the job is to take out the whole suite...then replace bath. Move position of the basin and toilet so opposite the bath (more room for bigger vanity).....then normal stuff like floor, tiles, decorate, extractor fan, lights. 


Size is small average bath- so bath is 1700 long (that is the width of the room) and I think the length is roughly a little bigger like 1850. 

This does not include my cost which I've just done online on Victorian plumbing cost is roughly  1200. 

I am based in London, Redbridge.

Thanks 

Mutton_Geoff

renfirsttimebuy said:

This does not include my cost which I've just done online on Victorian plumbing cost is roughly  1200.

Please consider better quality items from a reputable manufacturer (I am a fan of Ideal Standard) rather than the cheaply produced tat in places like Victoria "Plum" and Bathstore etc with their continual MFI "90% off today only sale".

Decent brassware also costs a lot of money, cheap is cheap for a reason. Again, I like Crosswater products. In all my projects, I spend money on everything that you touch, taps, switches, door handles etc. It's worth spending the money as you can feel the quality and stuff tends to last a lot longer without leaking/working loose/rattling.

Doozergirl said:

The VAT question is pertinent.

I agree, trades are very keen to quote ex VAT prices yet 90% of "us" are at the end of the tax chain and unable to claim it back, so everything ends up 20% more than you think if you don't take it into account. And "paying cash to save the VAT" is never worth it for a variety of reasons.

T3RRY

Would say that is a fair price considering they are removing and replacing your ceilings and new wiring for the lights. Although I don't think "Tanking with membrane floor and walls " is necessary work unless you are having a Wet room.

We just had our bathroom renovated with near similar work and we supplied tiles and bathroom suit and it came to under that all in all including VAT. However, We did not change the toilet or the ceilings, but had all walls and the ceiling were re-plastered and tiled three sides along the the bathtub.

Doozergirl

Mutton_Geoff said

renfirsttimebuy said:

This does not include my cost which I've just done online on Victorian plumbing cost is roughly  1200.

Please consider better quality items from a reputable manufacturer (I am a fan of Ideal Standard) rather than the cheaply produced tat in places like Victoria "Plum" and Bathstore etc with their continual MFI "90% off today only sale".

Decent brassware also costs a lot of money, cheap is cheap for a reason. Again, I like Crosswater products. In all my projects, I spend money on everything that you touch, taps, switches, door handles etc. It's worth spending the money as you can feel the quality and stuff tends to last a lot longer without leaking/working loose/rattling.

Doozergirl said:

The VAT question is pertinent.

I agree, trades are very keen to quote ex VAT prices yet 90% of "us" are at the end of the tax chain and unable to claim it back, so everything ends up 20% more than you think if you don't take it into account. And "paying cash to save the VAT" is never worth it for a variety of reasons.

I'm talking about it on another thread (again) but Victoria Plumb and Victorian Plumbing aren't the same thing. 

I too swear by Crosswater products - Victorian Plumbing sell Crosswater!  Victoria Plumb definitely don't 😉

God knows why they want to be associated with the other.  People probably end up buying from one when they've heard about the other.  

tallac

Mutton_Geoff said:
And "paying cash to save the VAT" is never worth it for a variety of reasons.

I've come across trades people in the past who have done this. I initially thought they were doing this so they could keep it off the books and thus pocket all the money but they've been happy to give me an invoice. The fact they gave an invoice, does this mean that they can't keep it off the books? As a customer, what are the pitfalls of paying cash to avoid paying VAT?

Doozergirl

tallac said:

Mutton_Geoff said:
And "paying cash to save the VAT" is never worth it for a variety of reasons.

I've come across trades people in the past who have done this. I initially thought they were doing this so they could keep it off the books and thus pocket all the money but they've been happy to give me an invoice. The fact they gave an invoice, does this mean that they can't keep it off the books? As a customer, what are the pitfalls of paying cash to avoid paying VAT?

Some people aren't VAT registered at all.  

tallac

Doozergirl said:

Some people aren't VAT registered at all.  

Sorry for the noob question but from a customer perspective, I don't know what that means for me.

Doozergirl

tallac said:

Doozergirl said:

Some people aren't VAT registered at all.  

Sorry for the noob question but from a customer perspective, I don't know what that means for me.

If you're not VAT registered, you don't charge VAT.  

The VAT on the materials is included in the overall bill, not separated out, and there will be no VAT at all on the labour.  

If they are VAT registered, then an invoice must be issued with VAT separated out and shown.