VCS Claim for old parking charge (after winning in Court)

Coupon-mad

Brilliant - you got full costs - so £19 per hour in time, as well, adding up to 3 figures?

Which car park is this that the landowner authority is in the name Excel?

RoyalBlue82

Yes! The Judge prompted the Solicitor to respond who had the cheek to say 'it's obvious the defendant has used a template commonly available via online Forums so should not claim 4 hours Litigant in person'.

The Judge wasn't moved, who said the this case should have been struck out earlier in the process and had grounds to believe we had been treated unfairly (and awarded full costs).

The car park is Formby Cloisters.

https://www.parkme.com/en-gb/lot/160793/the-cloisters-shopping-centre-formby-uk

Umkomaas

Nice one. Well done. 🥂

ANOTHER VCS ONE BITES THE DUST (or should that be EXCEL? 😂 ). 

beamerguy

RoyalBlue82  .... Congratulations.
It was good that the judge understood that two entities were involved., guess he knew of the antics of Excel / VCS.
You mention the "cheek of the legal" regarding the forum.  The templates are a guide only, it is you who adapts them to suit your case, hence you put in the work and are due your costs.

Was the legal Elms Legal by chance ????? Clearly they did not google to find out about an entity and to say it was a sister company when making a claim is total tosh. Any good legal with a modicum of intelligence would know that ?

Well done, you zapped the Renshaw-Smith empire as many courts are doing now

Le_Kirk

Excellent outcome, well done!

Castle

beamerguy said:

RoyalBlue82  .... Congratulations.
It was good that the judge understood that two entities were involved., guess he knew of the antics of Excel / VCS.
You mention the "cheek of the legal" regarding the forum.  The templates are a guide only, it is you who adapts them to suit your case, hence you put in the work and are due your costs.

Was the legal Elms Legal by chance ????? Clearly they did not google to find out about an entity and to say it was a sister company when making a claim is total tosh. Any good legal with a modicum of intelligence would know that ?

Well done, you zapped the Renshaw-Smith empire as many courts are doing now

And it's not a sister company; it's a Subsidiary of Excel-different legal meaning, but the same result.

nosferatu1001

Great going!

Snakes_Belly

Well done Friday 13th has been a bad day for Excel/VCS.

Interesting that the Judge mentioned Salomon vs Salomon that's a very old case but still relevant. It defines a limited company as an entity in it's own right. The Claimant's rep should have been aware of the case as they will have studied the law in depth. It's also taught on many professional qualifications that include a module in law. If Excel was to fail unsecured creditors could not go after VCS and vice versa.

RoyalBlue82

beamerguy said:

RoyalBlue82  .... Congratulations.
It was good that the judge understood that two entities were involved., guess he knew of the antics of Excel / VCS.
You mention the "cheek of the legal" regarding the forum.  The templates are a guide only, it is you who adapts them to suit your case, hence you put in the work and are due your costs.

Was the legal Elms Legal by chance ????? Clearly they did not google to find out about an entity and to say it was a sister company when making a claim is total tosh. Any good legal with a modicum of intelligence would know that ?

Well done, you zapped the Renshaw-Smith empire as many courts are doing now

It was DCB Legal who represented.

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback and comments :-) I must admit I had no idea about Salomon vs Salomon either and was frantically googling it during the hearing, but it obviously rattled the DCB rep who couldn't provide the necessary response even after a 5 minute pause. 

Does this mean that anyone who has a Court hearing for a ticket issued at the same car park could use a similar defence? Or will VCS just be more prepared now and provide evidence that they can act of behalf of Excel?

beamerguy

DCBL thanks .... so it's their car crash, great fun.

Does this mean that anyone who has a Court hearing for a ticket issued at the same car park could use a similar defence? Or will VCS just be more prepared now and provide evidence that they can act of behalf of Excel?

I think that would be a lot of work to change all their errors over the years. Signs, contracts and the desire to scam has opened them up to wide scale battering. Covid will be taken it's toll as well.

Your case can indeed be referenced.   Amazing though, a firm who think they are legals missed such a schoolboy error.