Neighbour says he’ll block our sale...can he?

mollycat

mcpitman said:

mollycat said:

danlightbulb said:

Whilst the posts here are right of course, nothing can stop the OP selling to the LA or veto the sale, I'm surprised that the neighbour's anger isn't at least sympathised with. No-one would relish your neighbour's house being sold back to LA with the risk of what tenants you might then get next door. I agree it probably does devalue his house, or at least make it harder to sell in future and has the potential to make his life a misery. Can thoroughly understand his anger at this.

My neighbour is a senior manager in the largest employer in our area, his wife is the chief accountant in the same firm. By far and away the highest income in our street, which brings with it a sense of entitlement. Since arrival the police have been called 3 or 4 times due to "domestics", he has destroyed property of mine and of the neighbour on his other side, regulary fills the wheelie bin of another elderly neighbour rendering it unusable for her, (and is so arrogant about it does not even remove address labels identifying himself), and has been flouting lockdown advice since the start by visiting a 2nd home every Fri-Sun.

I could go on and on, but it's probably getting boring now,

Suffice to say, they are by far and away the worst neighbours I have ever had; give me your average council/HA tenant any day.
No sympathy for OP's neighbour at all, in fact quite surprised that anyone else would do.

I would regularly be leaving the contents of this wheelie bin where they belong, on his doorstep.

Had a similar thing with an elderly neighbour recently, where the "new family" next door to her, started parking on her drive without permission and using her wheelie bins. (Refuse/recycling and garden waste).
I only needed to return the rubbish once to their doorstep and it ceased. I didn't even mention the car and it was moved within an hour of the rubbish being returned.

They thought they could bully dear old Beryl, but now think I am her grandson or relative living next door, so don't do anything anymore.

mcpitman said:

mollycat said:

danlightbulb said:

Whilst the posts here are right of course, nothing can stop the OP selling to the LA or veto the sale, I'm surprised that the neighbour's anger isn't at least sympathised with. No-one would relish your neighbour's house being sold back to LA with the risk of what tenants you might then get next door. I agree it probably does devalue his house, or at least make it harder to sell in future and has the potential to make his life a misery. Can thoroughly understand his anger at this.

My neighbour is a senior manager in the largest employer in our area, his wife is the chief accountant in the same firm. By far and away the highest income in our street, which brings with it a sense of entitlement. Since arrival the police have been called 3 or 4 times due to "domestics", he has destroyed property of mine and of the neighbour on his other side, regulary fills the wheelie bin of another elderly neighbour rendering it unusable for her, (and is so arrogant about it does not even remove address labels identifying himself), and has been flouting lockdown advice since the start by visiting a 2nd home every Fri-Sun.

I could go on and on, but it's probably getting boring now,

Suffice to say, they are by far and away the worst neighbours I have ever had; give me your average council/HA tenant any day.
No sympathy for OP's neighbour at all, in fact quite surprised that anyone else would do.

I would regularly be leaving the contents of this wheelie bin where they belong, on his doorstep.

Had a similar thing with an elderly neighbour recently, where the "new family" next door to her, started parking on her drive without permission and using her wheelie bins. (Refuse/recycling and garden waste).
I only needed to return the rubbish once to their doorstep and it ceased. I didn't even mention the car and it was moved within an hour of the rubbish being returned.

They thought they could bully dear old Beryl, but now think I am her grandson or relative living next door, so don't do anything anymore.

What, you don't think that happened?

Of course it's sorted, just didn't think I had to boast about it on the internet like some people might

mollycat

AdrianC said:

mollycat said:

My neighbour is a senior manager in the largest employer in our area, his wife is the chief accountant in the same firm. By far and away the highest income in our street, which brings with it a sense of entitlement.

Extrapolation from the odd individual doesn't work that way round, either.

Higher incomes are no more inherent indicators of anti-social behaviour than lower ones are. Some people are simply gits, some aren't.

None intended; not sure why you would assume I was trying to make that point.

Agree with the "gits" comment.

Grew up in the 60's and 70's, in what was once described as the worst housing scheme in western europe. Lots of anti-social behaviour, high levels of crime, deprivation, etc, etc, so I do have the context to make comparisions and judgements about influence of social status on the potential of someone to turn out as a "git", ( not much, i suppose).

But, back in the more enlightened 2020's; IMHO, (and that is all it is), I find the behaviour of someone I know is very well educated and definately more affluent less excusable than that of my neighbours all gthose years ago.

OP, apologies for taking your thread off track.

Davesnave

I agree, gittism is something unrelated to wealth or social class, and even the perceived moral rectitude of individuals.

We had an incident here where someone threw a carrier bag down outside our gate containing, among other things, the remains of a Chinese meal, which the crows had set about, a smashed Chelsea FC' mug, some empty lager cans and a broken plate. I was bemused and imagined someone in a passing car had thrown it  there. However, at the bottom of the bag, covered in sauce, was the receipt for a car part naming a near neighbour, Head of a large primary school.

I placed the bag and its contents outside the guy's door with a note saying he'd been a very naughty boy and please would he not fly tip on my entrance again. I couldn't help him as regards  Chelsea, but there existed organisations that might give people like him support.

Mr Head apologised profusely, but never hinted at a reason for his odd behaviour. Having done more than a few assemblies myself, I wondered how often he had made 'protecting the environment' and 'do unto others' his themes.Maybe he just had a bad day and the git within broke free for a few hours....

AdrianC

mollycat said:

My neighbour is a senior manager in the largest employer in our area, his wife is the chief accountant in the same firm. By far and away the highest income in our street, which brings with it a sense of entitlement.

mollycat said:

None intended; not sure why you would assume I was trying to make that point.

You really can't see why that seems to be extrapolating from their income to their "sense of entitlement"?

mollycat

AdrianC said:

mollycat said:

My neighbour is a senior manager in the largest employer in our area, his wife is the chief accountant in the same firm. By far and away the highest income in our street, which brings with it a sense of entitlement.

mollycat said:

None intended; not sure why you would assume I was trying to make that point.

You really can't see why that seems to be extrapolating from their income to their "sense of entitlement"?

I thought we were talking about the potential for neighbours to be antisocial or not depending on their status as private or council tenants?  The point I made about sense of entitlement is incidental; if my neighbour displayed "entitlement", but not antisocial behaviour, there would be no problem.

Pretty much everyone on the thread agrees that being a council tenant compared to private is a poor indicator of potential future neigbour related problems; I'm not sure why your quoting selective parts of my posts to alter the context of what's being said and taking the subject off topic.  If you've got any kind of difficulty with what I've posted can you be a bit more straightforward about it, I dont really do obtuse.
 

carefullycautious

I think the OP has learned a valuable lesson from this. Don't tell the neighbours personal information. 

Falafels

The best neighbours I've ever had were council tenants on an estate in Birmingham - warm, friendly and very mindful of their community. Not all of them, and there was a real anti-social element too. It's ridiculous to make a load of assumptions based on the fact that someone would be a council tenant; there are inconsiderate a*holes all the way up to the top, and all the way down to the bottom.

To the OP - I'm a bit concerned for the future tenants of your property having to put up with a neighbour like yours - but rest assured it's none of his business, and, no, he won't be able to block it!

Davesnave

carefullycautious said:

I think the OP has learned a valuable lesson from this. Don't tell the neighbours personal information. 

Does it not depend on what that info is and the exact circumstances? We've been making our neighbours aware for a year now about changes we'll make to our entrance , so when it happens it won't be a shock. Legally we're fine, but there can be social consequences if things are suddenly done which surprise others.

Besides what would anyone talk about in a village if there was no shared personal information, especially the confidential stuff?

iampetesmith

The thing is, once the house next door is up for sale then no one knows what the new neighbours will be like, whether the council buy it back or not. You could get council tenants that are like the people in Shameless, or you could get council tenants that are nice and friendly and quiet.

When we were privately renting, we had council tenants above us, next to us and above them (it was a maisonette with 4 properties in one building). None of them were a problem and they were all nice people, we were there for 4 years and in that time a couple of them moved out and others moved in, and there was nothing wrong with those people either.

Where we live now we have ex-council tenants both sides and there's nothing wrong with them. One side are a quiet older couple, the other side are a bit louder and have a few of them living there but they're fine. In fact, after getting to know them we found out that the guy who lived here before us didn't get on with them and caused all sorts of problems so they were glad he left.

Unfortunately for your neighbour, anyone can be horrible so it's not worth him getting upset just because the council want to buy it back. The house could be sold to a private landlord, who moves in antisocial tenants who don't pay the rent, trash the place and cause problems for all the neighbours.

The house could also be sold to a "regular" buyer, who thinks he can do what he likes and annoys everyone with petty complaints and disputes. It sounds like whoever moves in will be judged by this guy before they've even had a chance to introduce themselves and say hello.

Ditzy_Mitzy

danlightbulb said:

Whilst the posts here are right of course, nothing can stop the OP selling to the LA or veto the sale, I'm surprised that the neighbour's anger isn't at least sympathised with. No-one would relish your neighbour's house being sold back to LA with the risk of what tenants you might then get next door. I agree it probably does devalue his house, or at least make it harder to sell in future and has the potential to make his life a misery. Can thoroughly understand his anger at this.

Everything relevant has probably been said about the narrow mindedness and snobbery evidenced here.  Council tenants are, by and large, ordinary working people who receive a bit of support from the authority.  They aren't lesser, in some way, than those who rent privately or own property.  I live next door to a block of council flats.  Some of the tenants work, some are retired and some claim benefits.  They've all been perfectly decent neighbours, quiet most of the time and friendly when I've spoken to them.  The sad thing is that a lot moved into the block in the expectation that we, the residents of the private houses, would resent them in some way or another.  They were surprised when we didn't.  It's not been completely trouble free: the police have been round once or twice, there's been the odd argument and bit of silly driving but that's it.  Live and let live, they aren't scum and don't deserve to be thought of in such terms.  One certainly shouldn't fear the working classes and, if it bothers you that much, this perceived coarseness and bad behaviour, then perhaps it's time to petition for more opportunities for employment and adult education.