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Neighbour dispute

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  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 15,933 Forumite
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    Have you checked your deeds yet - it's been suggested three times?  The answer is there, as advised earlier.  It doesn't matter what anyone on here says if your deeds say something different.

    But to answer your points:

    1. I still can't see how a fence in that location is going to make any difference to your access if you can already get in and out of your door without going onto your neighbour's property.  You were happy with a low fence - how was that going to make access any easier than the six foot fence proposed?
    2. If you own a dog, you are obliged to ensure your garden is secure, so you haven't done them a favour by installing a fence, it was your obligation to do so.
    3. Where's the light/shade issue?  If that picture was taken in the middle of the day this close to midsummer's day and your door is already in shade, a fence is going to make very little difference to light for most of the day for most of the year.
    4. At the risk of repeating myself, check your deeds.  It's likely your neighbour has the same permissions/restrictions as you, so if there is nothing in there preventing a fence on that line, your neighbour is perfectly entitled to install a fence there, up to two metres in height.
  • renegadefm
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    kerryann0 said:
    Am I wrong for what I am saying here or do I still not have a leg to stand on. A 6ft fence along the green line. 
    I see what you mean about daylight restrictions. Definetly don't let this happen until you check if they can do it. Seems like their happy to shut you out which isnt very neighbourly 
  • Herzlos
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    kerryann0 said:
    I haven’t been using their land to gain access but to get the pram in and out of my house, having a fence  put there with cause me issues. When they park in their drive and get out of their car they sometimes step on my path. 
    Its more to to fact that it will be a high fence which will enclose my pathway into even more darkness then it already is. There is nothing there at the moment and they have moved it wanting to put a huge fence up against my door.

    A 6ft slat fence will have almost no impact on the light getting to the path - it's just tall enough to prevent most people looking over and will likely have a 1" gap every 5". There will be a bit of shadow but you'll be able to see fine.
    The bigger concern is if you need the extra space to maneuver a pram, then you must be using their driveway for it. If it's going to be a problem then go and talk to them, but they are fully entitled to build a fence on their side of the boundary line.
  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    kerryann0 said:
    Am I wrong for what I am saying here or do I still not have a leg to stand on. A 6ft fence along the green line. 
    I see what you mean about daylight restrictions. Definetly don't let this happen until you check if they can do it. Seems like their happy to shut you out which isnt very neighbourly 
    Are you seeing the same picture that I am?  I can see a gap between two houses, close to the middle of the day and only 19 days from the 'longest day' of the year, with a porch.  And it's in shade.  How is a fence going to block sunlight to the door?
  • renegadefm
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    kerryann0 said:
    Am I wrong for what I am saying here or do I still not have a leg to stand on. A 6ft fence along the green line. 
    I see what you mean about daylight restrictions. Definetly don't let this happen until you check if they can do it. Seems like their happy to shut you out which isnt very neighbourly 
    Are you seeing the same picture that I am?  I can see a gap between two houses, close to the middle of the day and only 19 days from the 'longest day' of the year, with a porch.  And it's in shade.  How is a fence going to block sunlight to the door?
    6ft is almost door height so it will restrict natural light. Im wondering if the neighbours use that garage for a car because with a fence there they would be making it awkward for themselves too. 
  • babyblade41
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    check the deeds .  but just by looking it seems perfectly reasonable to put a fence up and right to light isn't a good enough reason even if permission was needed .

    You need to check both your deeds and your neighbours deeds .  Costs 3.00 from Land registry 
  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    kerryann0 said:
    Am I wrong for what I am saying here or do I still not have a leg to stand on. A 6ft fence along the green line. 
    I see what you mean about daylight restrictions. Definetly don't let this happen until you check if they can do it. Seems like their happy to shut you out which isnt very neighbourly 
    Are you seeing the same picture that I am?  I can see a gap between two houses, close to the middle of the day and only 19 days from the 'longest day' of the year, with a porch.  And it's in shade.  How is a fence going to block sunlight to the door?
    6ft is almost door height so it will restrict natural light. Im wondering if the neighbours use that garage for a car because with a fence there they would be making it awkward for themselves too. 
    Maybe, but that's their choice.  It's possible there's more to this than we are being told.
  • Herzlos
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    Is that your only door?
  • renegadefm
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    check the deeds .  but just by looking it seems perfectly reasonable to put a fence up and right to light isn't a good enough reason even if permission was needed .

    You need to check both your deeds and your neighbours deeds .  Costs 3.00 from Land registry 
    Its the restriction into the door I would be disputing, how would you get a fridge freezer long ways in there. Plus its a long shot but check with the fire department as it might class that as restricting there access. 
  • Mickey666
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    Yes, worth checking with CAB I suppose, but unless the deeds grant rights over the neighbouring property what is likely to be the outcome?  The neighbour surely has a right to erect a boundary fence and it's not their fault if the OPs house has been built inconveniently close to the boundary.  As for light, I doubt a 6-foot fence will make a lot of difference.  The neighbouring house already blocks a lot of the sky and the OP's entrance canopy looks like it blocks the rest.
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