No response from appeals process

nosferatu1001

Just tell us the actual car park....
It sounds like it isnt ON railway land, then. But we dont knwo. 

D_P_Dance

 It’s a car park adjacent to the station and used by commuters.

 Is it covered by railway bye-laws?  Can you pay for parking at the ticket office? 

gerroffmyland

nosferatu1001 said:

Just tell us the actual car park....
It sounds like it isnt ON railway land, then. But we dont knwo. 

It’s named as Harlow Main CP from NCP. 

gerroffmyland

D_P_Dance said:

 It’s a car park adjacent to the station and used by commuters.

 Is it covered by railway bye-laws?  Can you pay for parking at the ticket office? 

I’m not sure about that. I’d have to go to the car park and find out for sure, which I can do shortly. 

Half_way

is this headed up as a penalty, penalty charge notice (PCN) or parking charge notice (PCN) ?

This distinction is important

gerroffmyland

Half_way said:

is this headed up as a penalty, penalty charge notice (PCN) or parking charge notice (PCN) ?

This distinction is important

Park charge notice to keeper. 

nosferatu1001

https://www.ncp.co.uk/find-a-car-park/car-parks/harlow-town-station-g-anglia/
Is this the car park? If so it is almost certainly part of railway land, and as such is covered by Railway Byelaws. This means it is NOT "relevant land" and therefore the Keeper cannot be liable. 

Redx

gerroffmyland said:

Half_way said:

who's car park was this?
what parking company is this?

It was a rail station car park monitored by NCP

You have made a sweeping statement there with no proof that we can see to back it up

Either it's railway land , owned by network rail and bylaws apply

Or

It's a private car park on private land conveniently located next to a station on network rail land

The difference is very important , so you or the driver need to double check the land ownership because the issue of penalty notice or parking charge notice is in question and require different approaches

To be clear , most people wouldn't know and would not think it matters , but it does

It matters as much as being in Berwick on tweed and wondering if English laws or Scottish laws apply to a case

gerroffmyland

nosferatu1001 said:

Is this the car park? If so it is almost certainly part of railway land, and as such is covered by Railway Byelaws. This means it is NOT "relevant land" and therefore the Keeper cannot be liable. 

Yes, this is the one. 

Redx

Then as long as the keeper did not reveal who was driving the keeper has no liability due to POFA not applying

If an appeal was made and it's well past the 35 days , the keeper should complain to the BPA