Renting neighbours from hell

vitaweat

Beepeear said:

Mickygg said:

If they are young they may not stay there for long. When I was young I moved every 6 to 12 months when I was renting. 

i think their house being dirty is none of your concern, everyone can chose to live how they wish in their own homes but being noisy is not ideal. Confronting them and calling them chavs was hardly the best thing to do. If anyone did that to me in my younger days I would have found it fun to wind you up, probably by revving that engine when I come and go that little bit more.

With your long post pointing out everything this is obviously a huge impact to you. I had this but a lesser extent when both my neighbours in a terrace house were doing long diy projects such as sanding bannisters etc it drove me crazy and then I noticed every single noise that I wouldn’t have noticed previously. I in the end spoke to both neighbours, one was fine and one was not, but I managed to get to them to agree to stop works at 8pm. 

as you can’t speak to them I would say you can either try to contact the landlord but that would probably be a no go, contact the council but then you would have to declare when you sell the house, or sell! 

I would probably try to find out when their contract ends and whether they renew. Do you know when they moved in? If they are still there a year after that they more than likely are there for at least another 6 months.

I have had to sell because of problem neighbours in the past. It was the only way in the end. I now live peacefully and was the best move but it cost tens of thousands. However when you move you never know who will move in next door even in your new home. 

I would try and wait it out and if it’s affecting your mental well being then look to sell.

Looking back of course I could have been a little less aggressive but I was at boiling point after being kept up all night due to their noise. They have been there coming up to about a year now, I’m not sure how long they may have left; I’m don’t have a lot of knowledge on renting contracts etc. 

The last thing I’d want to do is move as everyone except them on the street are lovely, they are clean and they take pride in their homes, whereas the ones next door to me just treat it as a doss house, I know they can choose how they want to live but at least try to make it look somewhat presentable.

i am going to contact the housing agency tomorrow and ask them if they are aware that 5/6 people are living there even though there was only 3 who originally moved in.

thank you for your advice though, I just wish it wasn’t so stressful 

Unfortunately you now have to live with the consequences of your actions.

If someone called you a chav and abused you for your behaviour how would you feel towards them?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Sachs

We have the exact same problem in our street. Its a mixture of rented and owner occupier of all ages and the problem neighbours are in their 50s and owner-occupiers! Consider yourself lucky yours are young and tenants, means they might move on in a year or two, we've been stuck with ours for over a decade.

We just ring the police and council as and when appropriate. Don't know if it ever does any good, one of them gets arrested occasionally.

Beepeear

csgohan4 said:

Beepeear said:

csgohan4 said:

ElephantBoy57 said:

Beepeear said:

I have done everything I thought to do, I came on here to see if any more needs to be done. Isn't that what forums are for?

Yes, I am sure you will get more advice.

Sadly this forum doesn't give you what you want to hear advise only, You've been given good advice already but you ignore it. 

I have seen “just move” said a lot like it’s as simple as picking up your stuff and going, it’s a long process and I haven’t long been here myself, I enjoy it here and I’m not going to move because of some people next door, I was simply looking for any advice on what other steps I could take to make them respect the property and the residents more

you can't force people to change their undesirable behavior, look at Trump as a prime example. What makes you think you can tell them what to do? They could also come round and tell you to foxtrot oscar and stop being nosy. What are you going to do?


If you have exhausted all legal avenues there is simply no other choice. 

I wouldn't say I am being nosey, I have no choice but to hear their noises, it's not like i'm going out of my way to listen to them

Beepeear

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

It happened three nights in a row when originally posting. The car is a constant annoyance. They originally had one around and now there's more and more coming and going. If they want to risk themselves to the virus that's fine but I don't think it's acceptable for them to put others at risk. 

I didn't say it would work, hence the reason I asked for an opinion on it

Beepeear

mollycat said:

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

Says someone who may not have lived next to antisocial scum before.
OP, you have my 100% sympathy.
For your own sanity try and stay calm and try and "pick your battles" carefully. I think try and get less stressed about some of the more minor stuff, but be assertive about the stuff that is effecting your quality of life, (nocturnal noise for example), without resorting to their level of behaviour.
As others have said, likely your neighbours will move on and take their chaos to bother someone else.

I would sit tight, find ways to manage the worst of the behaviour, ( with the support of fellow residents/authorities if/when appropriate), and ignore the flippant sarcasm of people who minimise and excuse the type of behaviour that (for example), keeps people awake the entire night. Good luck.

Of course I could have been a little less aggressive when confronting them but at the time I was tired and stressed from being woken up all weekend. I am making sure to not any major nuisances that occur so if needed I can provide it to whoever wants it.

Thank you for your understanding

Beepeear

SameOldRoundabout said:

mollycat said:

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

Says someone who may not have lived next to antisocial scum before.

Says someone who actually has had the misfortune to once rent a maisonette without realising the bottom flat was let to a HA responsible for the worst tenants, unable to get accommodation elsewhere due to their terrible behaviour. Hence thinking the issues detailed are actually fairly minor in comparison, I mean to have as one of your main complaints a slightly noisy car is a bit....it’s not a motorbike revving outside all night. Also, again as someone who lived above worse for 3 years, definitely not the stuff to cause mass escalation over by screaming names at the problem tenants. Carrot over stick works better, but it’s probably too late now and OP already said she didn’t want to be friendly! 

I have every sympathy for people with nuisance neighbours, but if moving is not an option there is limited recourse other than sitting it out! 

It's not a motorbike but believe me it is just as loud as one, especially when it's cold starting in an early morning it is arguably much louder than any motorbike I've heard.

Beepeear

vitaweat said:

Beepeear said:

Mickygg said:

If they are young they may not stay there for long. When I was young I moved every 6 to 12 months when I was renting. 

i think their house being dirty is none of your concern, everyone can chose to live how they wish in their own homes but being noisy is not ideal. Confronting them and calling them chavs was hardly the best thing to do. If anyone did that to me in my younger days I would have found it fun to wind you up, probably by revving that engine when I come and go that little bit more.

With your long post pointing out everything this is obviously a huge impact to you. I had this but a lesser extent when both my neighbours in a terrace house were doing long diy projects such as sanding bannisters etc it drove me crazy and then I noticed every single noise that I wouldn’t have noticed previously. I in the end spoke to both neighbours, one was fine and one was not, but I managed to get to them to agree to stop works at 8pm. 

as you can’t speak to them I would say you can either try to contact the landlord but that would probably be a no go, contact the council but then you would have to declare when you sell the house, or sell! 

I would probably try to find out when their contract ends and whether they renew. Do you know when they moved in? If they are still there a year after that they more than likely are there for at least another 6 months.

I have had to sell because of problem neighbours in the past. It was the only way in the end. I now live peacefully and was the best move but it cost tens of thousands. However when you move you never know who will move in next door even in your new home. 

I would try and wait it out and if it’s affecting your mental well being then look to sell.

Looking back of course I could have been a little less aggressive but I was at boiling point after being kept up all night due to their noise. They have been there coming up to about a year now, I’m not sure how long they may have left; I’m don’t have a lot of knowledge on renting contracts etc. 

The last thing I’d want to do is move as everyone except them on the street are lovely, they are clean and they take pride in their homes, whereas the ones next door to me just treat it as a doss house, I know they can choose how they want to live but at least try to make it look somewhat presentable.

i am going to contact the housing agency tomorrow and ask them if they are aware that 5/6 people are living there even though there was only 3 who originally moved in.

thank you for your advice though, I just wish it wasn’t so stressful 

Unfortunately you now have to live with the consequences of your actions.

If someone called you a chav and abused you for your behaviour how would you feel towards them?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Oh don't worry, I'm not losing any sleep over how I acted towards them, If they want respect showing to them they should respect general rules and not make excessive noise well past midnight

freesha

I'm always amazed at the number of people that minimise the disruption and misery that comes with having awful neighbours. Your home is your sanctuary, especially at the moment.