Renting neighbours from hell

Beepeear

csgohan4 said:

ElephantBoy57 said:

Beepeear said:

I have done everything I thought to do, I came on here to see if any more needs to be done. Isn't that what forums are for?

Yes, I am sure you will get more advice.

Sadly this forum doesn't give you what you want to hear advise only, You've been given good advice already but you ignore it. 

I have seen “just move” said a lot like it’s as simple as picking up your stuff and going, it’s a long process and I haven’t long been here myself, I enjoy it here and I’m not going to move because of some people next door, I was simply looking for any advice on what other steps I could take to make them respect the property and the residents more

csgohan4

Beepeear said:

csgohan4 said:

ElephantBoy57 said:

Beepeear said:

I have done everything I thought to do, I came on here to see if any more needs to be done. Isn't that what forums are for?

Yes, I am sure you will get more advice.

Sadly this forum doesn't give you what you want to hear advise only, You've been given good advice already but you ignore it. 

I have seen “just move” said a lot like it’s as simple as picking up your stuff and going, it’s a long process and I haven’t long been here myself, I enjoy it here and I’m not going to move because of some people next door, I was simply looking for any advice on what other steps I could take to make them respect the property and the residents more

you can't force people to change their undesirable behavior, look at Trump as a prime example. What makes you think you can tell them what to do? They could also come round and tell you to foxtrot oscar and stop being nosy. What are you going to do?


If you have exhausted all legal avenues there is simply no other choice. 

SameOldRoundabout

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

mobileron

Best thing is to get up early at the weekend,decide to clean the house at 6am,with the Queen cd on high. Then go out and mow the lawns.
Keep us informed.

mollycat

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

Says someone who may not have lived next to antisocial scum before.
OP, you have my 100% sympathy.
For your own sanity try and stay calm and try and "pick your battles" carefully. I think try and get less stressed about some of the more minor stuff, but be assertive about the stuff that is effecting your quality of life, (nocturnal noise for example), without resorting to their level of behaviour.
As others have said, likely your neighbours will move on and take their chaos to bother someone else.

I would sit tight, find ways to manage the worst of the behaviour, ( with the support of fellow residents/authorities if/when appropriate), and ignore the flippant sarcasm of people who minimise and excuse the type of behaviour that (for example), keeps people awake the entire night. Good luck.

SameOldRoundabout

mollycat said:

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

Says someone who may not have lived next to antisocial scum before.

Says someone who actually has had the misfortune to once rent a maisonette without realising the bottom flat was let to a HA responsible for the worst tenants, unable to get accommodation elsewhere due to their terrible behaviour. Hence thinking the issues detailed are actually fairly minor in comparison, I mean to have as one of your main complaints a slightly noisy car is a bit....it’s not a motorbike revving outside all night. Also, again as someone who lived above worse for 3 years, definitely not the stuff to cause mass escalation over by screaming names at the problem tenants. Carrot over stick works better, but it’s probably too late now and OP already said she didn’t want to be friendly! 

I have every sympathy for people with nuisance neighbours, but if moving is not an option there is limited recourse other than sitting it out! 

mollycat

SameOldRoundabout said:

mollycat said:

SameOldRoundabout said:

It sounds to me you’re making quite a big deal out of small things. They have a car you don’t approve of, are young (yet you are also very young!) and don’t keep clean windows. The noise you’ve posted about has been on occasions not all the time, and in post one they’ve 1 extra person saying there for lockdown, now you say it’s 2/3 extra. It’s not actually your business. Neighbours are always an unknown, count yourself lucky the others are pleasant. I can’t imagine you calling them lazy chavs will have done anything other than raise the annoyance levels for them. 

A petition is actually laughable, do you seriously think someone sat in the agents office is going to read and go “Wow, poor BPR having these scum with a loud exhaust and some bin bags next door, better evict them sharpish”

Says someone who may not have lived next to antisocial scum before.

Says someone who actually has had the misfortune to once rent a maisonette without realising the bottom flat was let to a HA responsible for the worst tenants, unable to get accommodation elsewhere due to their terrible behaviour. Hence thinking the issues detailed are actually fairly minor in comparison, I mean to have as one of your main complaints a slightly noisy car is a bit....it’s not a motorbike revving outside all night. Also, again as someone who lived above worse for 3 years, definitely not the stuff to cause mass escalation over by screaming names at the problem tenants. Carrot over stick works better, but it’s probably too late now and OP already said she didn’t want to be friendly! 

I have every sympathy for people with nuisance neighbours, but if moving is not an option there is limited recourse other than sitting it out! 

Fair enough, (which is why I said "may have"
IMHO, (and that's all it is), is that these threads fall down a rabbit hole leading to "ah but you called them a chav", or "you sound like you don't like young people", etc, etc, which in the grand scheme of things are not the relevant point.
To make my point let's assume the OP is intolerant of young people, let's assume the OP is unskilled at dealing with others, let's assume the OP has a very low threshold for turning to anger; even if all of those assumptions were true, he would still have a legitimate complaint, still be the person being wronged in the above scenario, and still feel entitled to live a life without harrasment, (as was the case with yourself described in your post).

I said he may have to sit these people out, on that we agree, however as someone who has also lived next to people whop cannot respect others, I find the minimising of it, and the sentiment that it simply needs to be "sucked up" galling.

Last comment not particularly aimed at you @SameOldRoundabout.

knightstyle

Just to say that waiting for them to move out may not work.  We did and the next lot were even worse1

Sistergold

Ear plugs for sleeping

Davesnave

knightstyle said:

Just to say that waiting for them to move out may not work.  We did and the next lot were even worse1

While the chances of that happening are ever present, the odds are  lengthened by the type of neighbourhood and the experience of the landlord. Not many professional landlords wish to add to their workload by having tricky tenants, and the road seems OK in this case.

It's still very different from the situation where a problem neighbour owns and might conceivably be there for the next 20 years.