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IPC CoP Parking Sign Query

Hello,
I note from the IPC  CoP Schedule 1 Signage it states Entrance Signs "Where a site does not invite parking of any kind, the ‘P’ sign may be omitted."
What does invite parking mean?
Dont all car parks invite parking!!
Can some knowledgeable person give me some examples of when the P can and cannot be present?
Knowing this might help someones defence.
thank you
Covid 

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  • UmkomaasUmkomaas Forumite
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    'No Parking', 'No Stopping'. 
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    covid1956 said:
    Hello,
    I note from the IPC  CoP Schedule 1 Signage it states Entrance Signs "Where a site does not invite parking of any kind, the ‘P’ sign may be omitted."
    What does invite parking mean?
    Dont all car parks invite parking!!
    Can some knowledgeable person give me some examples of when the P can and cannot be present?
    Knowing this might help someones defence.
    thank you
    Covid 
    only car parts open to the general public invite people to park , however (example) works car park , staff only , not open to general public 
  • covid1956covid1956 Forumite
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    covid1956 said:
    Hello,
    I note from the IPC  CoP Schedule 1 Signage it states Entrance Signs "Where a site does not invite parking of any kind, the ‘P’ sign may be omitted."
    What does invite parking mean?
    Dont all car parks invite parking!!
    Can some knowledgeable person give me some examples of when the P can and cannot be present?
    Knowing this might help someones defence.
    thank you
    Covid 
    only car parts open to the general public invite people to park , however (example) works car park , staff only , not open to general public 
    So if a pay and display car park open to the general public fails to have the big letter P on its entrance sign is not complying with the CoP. I assume this would be argueing a technicallity with the judge and would not be enough to have the case struck out on this point alone, but this with numerous other examples of a PPC not complying with the CoP would be worth including in a defence/WS ?
    cOVID
  • nosferatu1001nosferatu1001 Forumite
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    A big "P" simply tells you parking is allowed, and doesnt help one way or another
    What it should have is a big P and - terms and conditions, see signs inside - so you know to *look* for signs. 
  • edited 29 May 2020 at 2:55PM
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    edited 29 May 2020 at 2:55PM
    Did you read this case?   The entrance sign was twisted to face...the PPC's CCTV camera:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6136572/one-parking-solution-warned-by-a-judge-that-they-may-face-an-application-for-a-civil-restraint-order/p1

    You already know a P&D car park needs a Mandatory entrance sign, that is clear from all cases you see here.

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    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.






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    You already have two threads running about your court case. Why not ask your questions on the first one you started, and also ask a board guide to merge all your threads.
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