A bit of a niche one...

Rezolve

Umkomaas said:

Rezolve said:

Well it's Smart Parking, who don't use keeper liability under the POFA 2012 and can only hold an admitted driver liable, so tell her NOT to contact them and not to say who was driving at all, ever, in this case.

In this case then, do I need to do anything, I have a DRP letter, no letter from Smart Parking, I am unsure of how to proceed with these?

I presume you didn't read my advice above?

I did, but I was typing out my response as the suggestion to ask them to notify everyone else came through

Rezolve

Thanks for the advice all, I have submitted a SAR from each of the registered keepers of the car using a template in another thread. I will let you know when I hear back.

The gym manager has not replied just to let you know, I am thinking of going to their general member services as I am guessing he is on furlough?

Thanks again.

nosferatu1001

Well you need an answer, so do whatever you can to get one 

Umkomaas

Rezolve said:

Thanks for the advice all, I have submitted a SAR from each of the registered keepers of the car using a template in another thread. I will let you know when I hear back.

The gym manager has not replied just to let you know, I am thinking of going to their general member services as I am guessing he is on furlough?

Thanks again.

Hit as many contacts as possible, nothing to lose. 

D_P_Dance

These are not fines  What you have are invoices  from an ex-clamper to compensate them for the alleged harm they suffered when you did what you did. We call it a scam. Pay them not a penny unless a judge so orders it.

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Rezolve

I have heard from the gym who have basically said, as the manager who sorts this is on furlough, there isn't anything they do other than supply gym records for the driver of the vehicle to prove they were using the gym at those times. Obviously this then becomes an issue with informing them of whom the driver was.

I have now heard back from G24 regarding my SAR and they have given me the details of 4 charges in which the car I own and am the registered keeper of breached the time limit. It is stated I am too late to appeal these, however due to previously mentioned V5C issues, do I have grounds to appeal?

Coupon-mad

as the manager who sorts this is on furlough, there isn't anything they do other than supply gym records for the driver of the vehicle to prove they were using the gym at those times. Obviously this then becomes an issue with informing them of whom the driver was.

Providing proof that an occupant of the car was in the gym is not saying who parked the car.  And even if you did admit to driving, who cares, it's NOT the G24 one that I told you is non-POFA (unless these arrived late, more than 14 days after the parking events).  If it's a POFA 2012 PCN then who cares?

It was only your wife's SMART PARKING one that I told you was non-POFA.  Completely different.

do I have grounds to appeal?

Why are you asking about appealing a PCN from an IPC firm?  This is covered in the NEWBIES thread post #1 and post #3 where it tells you there is no independent appeal and not to try IAS, but to win in court instead.  And that's where the proof from the gym that you were using the facility, will be useful evidence.   That's why we encourage you to get that proof now, even if the gym won't cancel it because they are being useless. 

It looks more reasonable later if you show the Judge that you disputed the PCNs and proved to G24 that you were using the gym.

Rezolve

Apologies Coupon-Mad, it's a bit overwhelming with lots of new information, so trying to get clued up as soon as possible. I will email the logs to G24 once I have had them returned to me and explain the situation to them. The logs will take 3-5 days according to PureGym.

Thanks again!

Coupon-mad

Maybe start a new thread about the Smart Parking one if you need it, as it is completely different!

Rezolve

Hi guys,
I have had the SAR back from G24, and I have had the logs back from the gym, I am looking to dispute the charge as advised with G24, however they only offer mail appeals and online appeals via a website. If I put the "Contractual Parking Charge Notice Number" into the website it says not recognised, I believe this is due to the time that has passed. Any recommendations on how I can move forward in a digital format with G24?

Thanks