Car leasing - vehicle not fit for purpose

Scrapit

Is it a plug in hybrid? What mikage will you be satisfied with from the battery?

born_again

Which car?
Throttle to floor type of driver? Of tickle the throttle?

neilmcl

What car is it then? Have you been on the owner forums to see how it compares to others?

lordmountararat

I am willing to bet that the brochure doesn't guarantee 24 miles. It will say something like 'up to 24 miles'. But that would be in ideal test conditions, rather like the hopelessly ambitious MPG figures quoted for most ICE cars.

[Deleted User]

What car is it? What is the WLTP range for battery only?

452

lew1976 said:

The car was bought as it should have been more economical. However this is not the case. I was told and the car would go approx 24?miles (stated on brochure) on electric. However 11 miles makes minimal if any economical savings. 

What car is it?

I had a self charging hybrid that would only run on full electric mode up to 20mph. Once about it turned itself off and went into hybrid mode and the electric motor was used to boost the petrol engine when required. 

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought hybrid means it ran with both power sources when the vehicle saw fit. 

AdrianC

452 said:

lew1976 said:

The car was bought as it should have been more economical. However this is not the case. I was told and the car would go approx 24?miles (stated on brochure) on electric. However 11 miles makes minimal if any economical savings. 

What car is it?

I had a self charging hybrid that would only run on full electric mode up to 20mph. Once about it turned itself off and went into hybrid mode and the electric motor was used to boost the petrol engine when required. 

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought hybrid means it ran with both power sources when the vehicle saw fit. 

Ish. It simply means it has both power sources. There's a range from "mild hybrids" that can't run on their own - just a bit of a power boost - to plugins with plenty of range and almost full power.

Most "self-charging" (ie non-plugin, all the electricity comes from the petrol tank not the grid) are very limited performance and range. 24 mile official sounds lower end of plug-in, upper end of "self-charge".

shinytop

I had a plug in hybrid (VW Golf GTE) that had a claimed E-range of 28 miles.  At anything approaching normal driving I'd be lucky to get half that.  It was still a great car though.  Have a look here for real world numbers.
https://www.speakev.com/

madasamoht

I sympathise with you - I had a BMW 225 that claimed 25 miles on battery. In reality the range estimate never got above 18, and in reality it struggled to beat 12. Doubt it's my driving - in my previous Renault Zoe i could easily beat the claimed range.
Unfortunately the manufactures have to use the optimistic WLTP estimates in their marketing, which in themselves stipulate that they are for comparison use only.

AdrianC

madasamoht said:

Unfortunately the manufactures have to use the optimistic WLTP estimates in their marketing, which in themselves stipulate that they are for comparison use only.

Yet the move from NEDC to WLTP brought claims down markedly...