UKCPM Residential Estate ticket recieved in post

Coupon-mad

They are writing to the named HIRER/LESSEE.  Big difference, not that the IAS care (there's no independent appeal, so be under no illusions there) but in law they will have failed to send the required enclosures with your Notice to Hirer.  They can't write to the registered keeper as long as you acknowledge their letters as hirer/lessee, they only have you to bother.

happy_clappy

Is there a deadline they need to get the notice to the hirer once they receive the details from the hire company?
(so it gets to the hire company within 14days, they then give the hirer's details and then what is the time frame the parking company must send the hirer the notice charge?)

KeithP

Paragraph 14 of Schedule 4 of POFA has the answer -14 days.

But remember the RK has 28 days to notify the creditor, and supply them with the necessary documentation.

happy_clappy

KeithP said:

Paragraph 14 of Schedule 4 of POFA has the answer -14 days.

But remember the RK has 28 days to notify the creditor, and supply them with the necessary documentation.

sorry cant seen 14 days..

2)The conditions are that—

(a)the creditor has within the relevant period given the hirer a notice in accordance with sub-paragraph (5) (a “notice to hirer”), together with a copy of the documents mentioned in paragraph  and the notice to keeper;

(b)a period of 21 days beginning with the day on which the notice to hirer was given has elapsed; and

(c)the vehicle was not a stolen vehicle at the beginning of the period of parking to which the unpaid parking charges relate.

(3)In sub-paragraph (2)(a) “the relevant period” is the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the documents required by paragraph  are given to the creditor.

KeithP

Yes you are right. 14 days is wrong. Don't know where that came from. Sorry.

21 days is correct.

happy_clappy

Bottom line my original "appeal" to them was only with regards to the 14 day discount thing - which they refused, without providing any further appeal info or POPLA code. I have now passed the 21 days for appeal and in fact also just passed the 28 days for paying... whats next step?

Umkomaas

happy_clappy said:

Bottom line my original "appeal" to them was only with regards to the 14 day discount thing - which they refused, without providing any further appeal info or POPLA code. I have now passed the 21 days for appeal and in fact also just passed the 28 days for paying... whats next step?

Wait for the almost inevitable court claim from UKCPM - the country's most litigious operator - then defend it following the guidance in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post (which you should start reading now so you are prepared). 

Despite them missing appropriate dates and you bringing those to their attention, nothing you could have written would have caused them to cancel the PCN. Parking firms don't make any money by cancelling PCNs. 

Coupon-mad

Of course there was no POPLA code.  It's UKCPM, they are in the IPC and there is no appeal.

But we beat them in court!