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Very Unique ANPR PCN pursuit by PPC from 08/2017

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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 17 May 2020 at 9:34AM
    If the PCNs were not PoFA compliant then you would be daft to name the driver. The keeper cannot be held liable if the PCNs arrived after day 15 so there is no advantage in throwing the driver under the tram. 
    You would be better editing your posts to remove information about who did and only refer to The Driver and The Keeper.

    Since PoPLA is not available, once you have appealed each PCN separately to the PPC you go into ignore mode unless/until the scammers start a court claim.



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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 17 May 2020 at 11:45AM
    Not daft to name the driver if Dad is not up to court.  Some keepers are best transferring liability.

    But the OP was also told that in another Brockholes case, that they cancelled it last week so clearly they have that power even though the parking firm seems to have changed.  I assume he's found & read that thread now.  I stand by my advice if Dad is not up to defending at his local court:
    I am unsure what to do here? One suggesting admit liability and give up driver name.
    Yep.  Dad must name you and give your postal address, unless he is up to defending in court as keeper.
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  • happybagger
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    edited 17 May 2020 at 1:40PM
    I was about to say "What, even after 3 years?" but then thought, no, I'll look up what coupon-mad says about the other Brockholes case. And was surprised that was also cancelled by Brockholes intervention after so long.
    This has to be the way to go as it has clearly worked.
    I know some don't like OPs being given links, but I'm going to:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6135625/park-with-ease-threatening-to-enhance-cctv-footage-refusing-to-remove-my-keeper-data/p1
    Get onto it
    Deny these firms your hard earned cash
  • etcxr
    etcxr Posts: 4 Newbie
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    Hi guys, hope you get this comment notification but I've had a another letter through now from QDR solicitors, acting on behalf of ZZPS but after reading the stickies am I right thinking these are empty threats until I receive LBC? Are they trying to scare into paying knowing their claim won't stand in court (no driver liability, no windscreen PCN first PCN after 14 days) . I am right in suggesting that to invoke keeper liability PC must use POFA 2012? Which they didn't adhere to by not issuing the NTK within 14 days 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 July 2020 at 12:29AM
    What a terrible example of a debt recovery letter - they should be illegal. 

    Empty threats, an exaggerated sum of money (£770!) and three companies all conspiring to split the ill-gotten gains, if they actually find a mug who pays them.  QDR you should be ashamed of what you do.
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  • BrownTrout
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    edited 2 July 2020 at 6:34AM
    QDR even admit they dont litigate on behalf of this lot just debt collection.  QDR couldn't review a dead cat let alone a file.
  • Half_way
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    First of all you must stop contacting the parking company, or any other hangers on (ie qdr)
     You said it was a nature reserve, as it was dark.
     both of those are important, first of it was dark were the signs in the car park clearly illuminated?
     Secondly as a nature reserve it is most likely a charity.

    You are also dealing with a few other things, and its important that, at this stage you don't attempt to disclose or guess as to who these could be:

    The driver on the day, so not say I/he/she/my dad/my mum etc drove or parked

    The keeper of the vehicle, this is who ever looks after the vehicle in a day to day basis.

    The registered keeper, this is to whom official letters should go to, DVLA tax reminders, and things such as the parking ticket
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  • D_P_Dance
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    We hope to resolve this matter without the need of (sic) reviewing your ...   

    Oh dear.surely such grammar has to bring their profession into disrepute. A tongue in cheek letter to the SRA would be in order imo.
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