Is oil flushing over maintenance when replacing engine oil?

forgotmyname

MinuteNoodles said:

Because in the main a lot of their vehicles, especially their trucks such as the Ford F series, are still using engines designed in the 1960s. Plus there's the mindset they have over there too. They're a very gullible people.

Or maybe the extended service intervals are to lure business buyers, the appeal that it will not need servicing during their ownership could save
large buyers a lot of money. They will not care if the car expires at 100,000 miles because it will be onto its 2nd or 3rd owner and out
of warranty.

If you want it to last then change the oil more often. Works for me.  My last few cars have moved into new owners with 150,000 miles or
more and they last a lot of miles afterwards, whether petrol or diesel.

Car_54

MinuteNoodles said:

KimJongUn88 said:

Americans literally !!!!!! themselves if they can't get an oil service every 6 months.  

Because in the main a lot of their vehicles, especially their trucks such as the Ford F series, are still using engines designed in the 1960s. Plus there's the mindset they have over there too. They're a very gullible people.

Leaving aside the racist slur ...

I think that perception (about old engines) is out-of-date. About 75% of cars and SUVs sold in the US last year were Japanese-designed, and they've been in the majority for years.

forgotmyname

Car_54 said:

Leaving aside the racist slur ...

I think that perception (about old engines) is out-of-date. About 75% of cars and SUVs sold in the US last year were Japanese-designed, and they've been in the majority for years.

OH Dear...  I can hear the lynch mob accumulating.   In no way is that Ford really a Mazda in a new dress, look its got a Ford badge must be
all American.. 

Not looked at how many Foreign engines there are in cars they would call "all american"?

MinuteNoodles

forgotmyname said:

 

Or maybe the extended service intervals are to lure business buyers, the appeal that it will not need servicing during their ownership could save
large buyers a lot of money. They will not care if the car expires at 100,000 miles because it will be onto its 2nd or 3rd owner and out
of warranty.

If you want it to last then change the oil more often. Works for me.  My last few cars have moved into new owners with 150,000 miles or
more and they last a lot of miles afterwards, whether petrol or diesel.

Explain taxis then who regularly expect to get 300,000 miles out of a car and they only change the oil as and when it is supposed to. Likewise for vans used by couriers. Or what about the lorries I drive which are doing 100,000km between oil changes and will do well over a million km just fine? I've passed on my cars to new owners, last one to my parents with 155,000 miles on, the previous one to a friend with 168,000 miles on. Both only ever getting oil changes at the 12,500 mile service intervals. My friend has a battered old Vauxhall Astra van he bought 15 years ago, hardly ever services that and it's on over quarter of a million miles like the Vectra he had before it which he treated the same.

You should stop living in the past, you're needlessly setting fire to money.

mgfvvc

forgotmyname said:

If you want it to last then change the oil more often. Works for me.  My last few cars have moved into new owners with 150,000 miles or more and they last a lot of miles afterwards, whether petrol or diesel.

My last car went on to a new owner at 145,000 miles and lasted another 4 years. The shortest oil change interval it had in those 145,000 miles was 16,000 miles. You don't need lots of oil changes to get a modern engine to 150,000+, as long as you use the right oil.

born_again

MinuteNoodles said: Plus there's the mindset they have over there too. They're a very gullible people. 

There is  lot of that over here too....

Seems people think we are being scammed by being told that a oil change is only needed every 2 years or X miles. They think the engine will blow up if the oil is not changed sooner...
If that was the case, then car manufactures would not specify that service interval. As they would all be bust replacing all the blown engines. 

Ectophile

born_again said:

MinuteNoodles said: Plus there's the mindset they have over there too. They're a very gullible people. 

There is  lot of that over here too....

Seems people think we are being scammed by being told that a oil change is only needed every 2 years or X miles. They think the engine will blow up if the oil is not changed sooner...
If that was the case, then car manufactures would not specify that service interval. As they would all be bust replacing all the blown engines. 

I think the point that people are making is that the engine only has to last for the warranty period.  After that, it's no longer the problem of the manufacturer, the original dealer, or the finance or fleet company that originally bought it.

MinuteNoodles

Ectophile said:

I think the point that people are making is that the engine only has to last for the warranty period.  After that, it's no longer the problem of the manufacturer, the original dealer, or the finance or fleet company that originally bought it.

That warranty period is now knocking on the door of 100,000 miles with many manufacturers. Even for manufacturers like Ford who have a 3 year 60,000 mile warranty for their Mondeo that manufacturer's warranty is increased to 100,000 miles for business purchasers so even Ford think that their engines will last longer than the 60k the retail purchasers get. 

AdrianC

MinuteNoodles said:

Ectophile said:

I think the point that people are making is that the engine only has to last for the warranty period.  After that, it's no longer the problem of the manufacturer, the original dealer, or the finance or fleet company that originally bought it.

That warranty period is now knocking on the door of 100,000 miles with many manufacturers. Even for manufacturers like Ford who have a 3 year 60,000 mile warranty for their Mondeo that manufacturer's warranty is increased to 100,000 miles for business purchasers so even Ford think that their engines will last longer than the 60k the retail purchasers get. 

And, yes, it probably will last for three years of 30-odd thousand miles per year.

But will it last ten years and, say, 150k?

forgotmyname

Ectophile said:

I think the point that people are making is that the engine only has to last for the warranty period.  After that, it's no longer the problem of the manufacturer, the original dealer, or the finance or fleet company that originally bought it.

Yes exactly.  It will not blow up but with oil changes performed with the consideration of wear and tear not down to a budget per mile for a business
should last longer.

You may not be able to tell, but when i sold my petrol car with around 150k on the clock it used zero oil whether on short journeys
or towing the caravan up and down the motorway. Not a drop, spark plugs and breather hoses spotless.

A lot will depend on the journeys also, a taxi and delivery vehicles will mostly have a warm engine with few cold starts. We used to take the
lorries in for a service every 6 weeks so not huge mileages between oil changes.

Check the handbooks pretty sure they will give shorter intervals for vehicles used for shorter journeys or harsher conditions.