Furloughed

sharpe106

unholyangel said:

sharpe106 said:

The government has pretty much left the public sector out, yes some can claim but most can't which does not help people like you. Why they did not open it up to the public sector workers when they changed the scheme from being a job retention scheme to it current scheme, which is basically a keep Boris popular scheme now. 

Private sector have customers who pay them for things and the private company then uses that to pay their staff. If they are unable to trade as normal, they may not be able to pay their staffs wages. 

The public sector do not trade commercially for profit like the private sector does. Their wage bills are already taxpayer funded. 

Yes but not all public sectors are paying the workers still, like employers it is up to each department/area there is just advice like there is for business. So the workers themselves are in the same position as private sector workers but unable to be furloughed. How the scheme was originally it made no sense for that but now they are using it basically as a benefit system it is unfair on the public workers. 

unholyangel

sharpe106 said:

unholyangel said:

sharpe106 said:

The government has pretty much left the public sector out, yes some can claim but most can't which does not help people like you. Why they did not open it up to the public sector workers when they changed the scheme from being a job retention scheme to it current scheme, which is basically a keep Boris popular scheme now. 

Private sector have customers who pay them for things and the private company then uses that to pay their staff. If they are unable to trade as normal, they may not be able to pay their staffs wages. 

The public sector do not trade commercially for profit like the private sector does. Their wage bills are already taxpayer funded. 

Yes but not all public sectors are paying the workers still, like employers it is up to each department/area there is just advice like there is for business. So the workers themselves are in the same position as private sector workers but unable to be furloughed. How the scheme was originally it made no sense for that but now they are using it basically as a benefit system it is unfair on the public workers. 

My point was that they've already had 100% of their staffing costs covered by public funding. To allow them to claim from the fund would be basically increasing their budget and those expecting to have increased costs due to covid will already have emergency funding available to them. 

Remember, CJRS rules and employment contract rules are different. The OP's real problem is that they're zero hours. IF they were contracted for a minimum number of hours, they'd still be entitled to that in line with their contract terms, as the public employer would have set aside funding for it. Zero hours or temp contracts are more likely to be paid from surplus funding, only if it is available after meeting the necessary costs. 

sharpe106

My point is not that they should but that them workers are falling through the gaps like the private sector workers. It is the management that are using that to save money, same as in private companies.