We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

having a dabble

Options
1246

Comments

  • ColdIron said:
    On tiny amounts such as £50 I wouldn't bother, it really isn't going to make any difference. Probably not what you want to hear but it is the fact of the matter
    Everyone has to start somewhere...is everyone saving thousands a month on this forum because it certainly sounds like it 
    Portfolios start with humble beginnings. Mine started with £10 a month into a pension plan two months after I first started work. Compounding of returns isn't anything magical. Over the years it rolls like a snowball. Bigger and bigger. The longer you leave it untouched the better. 
    That was my point that £50 a month is a good start and i wish i started earlier, but it feels like OP being berated for trying to concentrate some of his deposits into certain funds as that it's insignificant....
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    ColdIron said:
    On tiny amounts such as £50 I wouldn't bother, it really isn't going to make any difference. Probably not what you want to hear but it is the fact of the matter
    Everyone has to start somewhere...is everyone saving thousands a month on this forum because it certainly sounds like it 
    Portfolios start with humble beginnings. Mine started with £10 a month into a pension plan two months after I first started work. Compounding of returns isn't anything magical. Over the years it rolls like a snowball. Bigger and bigger. The longer you leave it untouched the better. 
    That was my point that £50 a month is a good start and i wish i started earlier, but it feels like OP being berated for trying to concentrate some of his deposits into certain funds as that it's insignificant....
    There's a tendancy to tinker in the hope of generating better returns. Building a portfolio is akin to watching paint dry. More recent years appear to have changed investing culture. Not for the better I should add. Expectations have been greatly raised with complacency prevalent. 
  • Alistair31
    Alistair31 Posts: 978 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    ColdIron said:
    On tiny amounts such as £50 I wouldn't bother, it really isn't going to make any difference. Probably not what you want to hear but it is the fact of the matter
    Everyone has to start somewhere...is everyone saving thousands a month on this forum because it certainly sounds like it 
    Portfolios start with humble beginnings. Mine started with £10 a month into a pension plan two months after I first started work. Compounding of returns isn't anything magical. Over the years it rolls like a snowball. Bigger and bigger. The longer you leave it untouched the better. 
    That was my point that £50 a month is a good start and i wish i started earlier, but it feels like OP being berated for trying to concentrate some of his deposits into certain funds as that it's insignificant....
    More like tough love if you ask me. 
  • Sailtheworld
    Sailtheworld Posts: 1,551 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    dd95 said:
    thanks coldiron, any feedback (positive or not) is more than welcomed. Would you therefore suggest putting the extra 50 in my vls80?
    Until it's reasonable size then yes. Diversify once you've established a core to your portfolio. 
    Buying into sector specific funds is concentrating rather than diversifying.

    Agree with the point though. By the time the OP has built up a decent sized diversified fund they might have answered the question about whether they have the foresight to spot sectors that are about to perform well ahead of the market spotting them.
  • MaxiRobriguez
    MaxiRobriguez Posts: 1,783 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 1 May 2020 at 4:06PM
    ColdIron said:
    On tiny amounts such as £50 I wouldn't bother, it really isn't going to make any difference. Probably not what you want to hear but it is the fact of the matter
    Everyone has to start somewhere...is everyone saving thousands a month on this forum because it certainly sounds like it 
    Portfolios start with humble beginnings. Mine started with £10 a month into a pension plan two months after I first started work. Compounding of returns isn't anything magical. Over the years it rolls like a snowball. Bigger and bigger. The longer you leave it untouched the better. 
    That was my point that £50 a month is a good start and i wish i started earlier, but it feels like OP being berated for trying to concentrate some of his deposits into certain funds as that it's insignificant....
    Not at all.

    I'm whacking £2k a month into my pension pot and for all intents and purposes it's pretty much the same as a VLS100.

    My pot aint big enough to get into sectors yet. 
  • Alexland
    Alexland Posts: 10,183 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Maybe as an investor it might help to make a few mistakes early with small amounts of money to stop you making them later with bigger amounts of money. There's a limit to how much you learn from book knowledge or just being put on the right path at the outset.
  • ColdIron said:
    On tiny amounts such as £50 I wouldn't bother, it really isn't going to make any difference. Probably not what you want to hear but it is the fact of the matter
    Everyone has to start somewhere...is everyone saving thousands a month on this forum because it certainly sounds like it 
    Portfolios start with humble beginnings. Mine started with £10 a month into a pension plan two months after I first started work. Compounding of returns isn't anything magical. Over the years it rolls like a snowball. Bigger and bigger. The longer you leave it untouched the better. 
    That was my point that £50 a month is a good start and i wish i started earlier, but it feels like OP being berated for trying to concentrate some of his deposits into certain funds as that it's insignificant....
    Not at all.

    I'm whacking £2k a month into my pension pot and for all intents and purposes it's pretty much the same as a VLS100.

    My pot aint big enough to get into sectors yet. 
    £2k / mnth :O you''ll have a nice retirement! more that what most people earn 
  • dd95
    dd95 Posts: 213 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    so the general consensus then is to build up a decent sized (circa 100k) main global tracker pot and once that is at a decent size look at putting smaller amounts into more risky specific funds?

    out of interest, what was everyone's journey like? what did you branch out into away from your global indexes (if at all) and why?
  • Durban
    Durban Posts: 485 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 1 May 2020 at 5:54PM
    Alexland said:
    Maybe as an investor it might help to make a few mistakes early with small amounts of money to stop you making them later with bigger amounts of money. There's a limit to how much you learn from book knowledge or just being put on the right path at the outset.
    Alexland said:
    Maybe as an investor it might help to make a few mistakes early with small amounts of money to stop you making them later with bigger amounts of money. There's a limit to how much you learn from book knowledge or just being put on the right path at the outset.


    Definitely - I made mistakes early on thinking I was clever and dabbling in individual shares.
    I learnt my expensive lesson.
    Now it is mostly VLS etc

    However , I have just bought some Carnival shares when they were at around £8.90
  • Alexland
    Alexland Posts: 10,183 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 1 May 2020 at 6:18PM
    Yes sometimes you need to make the same mistakes twice for it to sink in....
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.