Help Regarding Self Isolation

Undervalued

Deleted_User said:

Hello. My girlfriend has to self isolate for 12 weeks because she is vulnerable. The company will pay 10 weeks of her pay in full and the other 2 weeks have to be taken in holidays. Surly that’s unfair she has to give up her holidays due to Covid-19. 

Surely it is unfair that the company are paying for ten weeks work they are not getting? If fact it is incredibly generous of them as they are certainly not obliged to pay more than SSP (c. £90 per week) and maybe not even that.

Perhaps you and / or your girlfriend need to take some responsibility and not expect everybody else to nursemaid you through all aspects of your lives?

bradders1983

Deleted_User said:

Fire_Fox said:

Deleted_User said:

Hello. My girlfriend has to self isolate for 12 weeks because she is vulnerable. The company will pay 10 weeks of her pay in full and the other 2 weeks have to be taken in holidays. Surly that’s unfair she has to give up her holidays due to Covid-19. 

Welcome to MSE!

Do you mean your girlfriend has received an official letter recommending 'shielding' for twelve weeks because she is in the 'highly vulnerable' group? OR do you mean that she is in the 'at risk/ vulnerable' group and has chosen to 'self-isolate'?

Shielding for 12 weeks.  She has received a few letters from the NHS and other doctors. 

In which case getting full pay for 10 weeks and having to use 2 weeks a/l for the rest is more than generous.

Read around the rest of the forum. You have people worried sick about having no money, and having to go on SSP or Universal Credit. This is why you haven't been getting much sympathy for a very generous employer offer.

[Deleted User]

bradders1983 said:

10 weeks full pay? Dear me, she is on to a right winner there. You have no right to moan.

Also in a 12 week period it was probably the case she was going to take a weeks holiday anyway?

Not moaning😅 Just asking questions 😁

bradders1983

Well you were moaning, you pulled out the "unfair" word in your opening gambit.

All seems very fair to me. Of course the alternative is she can refuse the offer and go on 12 weeks SSP.

Cardiff138

Sorry I didn't want it to be seen as me moaning. I am very grateful for having 10 weeks paid,  trust me I know how lucky I am and just wish everyone else was as lucky as me. I have a serious medical condition and have to shield for 12 weeks but I would rather be in work, I've only ever had one day off sick so the guy who said I'm expected to be 'nursemaid' could be further than the truth. I have worked my butt off over the past years and would be the first one to stay behind or offer to work on my days off despite my medical condition.
I was only asking the question as a girl I work with doesn't work many days so her two weeks holiday she has to give up means she will only get 2 days to take from when she goes back to the end of the financial year which could be 6-8 months apart without any holidays. I apologise if I have upset anyone.
The original post girlfriend 

Fire_Fox

calcotti said:

Fire_Fox said: 

Welcome to MSE!

Do you mean your girlfriend has received an official letter recommending 'shielding' for twelve weeks because she is in the 'highly vulnerable' group? OR do you mean that she is in the 'at risk/ vulnerable' group and has chosen to 'self-isolate'?

My understanding is that would be social distancing not self isolating. Self isolating is for those with symptoms of coronavirus or living with someone who has symptoms.

'Self isolating' encompasses that too. We are recommended to isolate at home for a shorter or a longer period of time, depending on the precise circumstances.

'Social distancing' is not visiting or being visited by members of other other households (with a few exceptions), staying two metres apart (general public/ at work), limiting physical contact with people not from your household (no handshakes or air kisses). Literally being distant in any social interaction.

'Social distancing' and 'shielding' recommendations are likely to remain in place for many months even as 'lockdown' is progressively lifted. As a city centre resident the prospect of 'socially distant' queues at each bus stop and outside newly reopened stores is worrying! I (briefly) walked in the middle of the road last week to maintain distance from from one of the bank queues.

As I understand it anyway.

EssJayD

What does your girlfriend think?  Is she happy with the (very) generous arrangement?

EssJayD

Oh epic X post. 

paolalopez118

It went very well, my family is in Venezuela and well the government implemented an official gazette stating that all people have to be paid and cannot be thrown out for the remainder of the year while being quarantined by covid-19 But this does not help at all because many companies are critical and salaries are not very good for the country's economy, so the Venezuelan has to rummage through other businesses but right now everything is closed and many are with water on their necks for food because the salary is not enough.

calcotti

Fire_Fox said:

calcotti said:

Fire_Fox said: 

Welcome to MSE!

Do you mean your girlfriend has received an official letter recommending 'shielding' for twelve weeks because she is in the 'highly vulnerable' group? OR do you mean that she is in the 'at risk/ vulnerable' group and has chosen to 'self-isolate'?

My understanding is that would be social distancing not self isolating. Self isolating is for those with symptoms of coronavirus or living with someone who has symptoms.

'Self isolating' encompasses that too. We are recommended to isolate at home for a shorter or a longer period of time, depending on the precise circumstances.

'Social distancing' is not visiting or being visited by members of other other households (with a few exceptions), staying two metres apart (general public/ at work), limiting physical contact with people not from your household (no handshakes or air kisses). Literally being distant in any social interaction.

'Social distancing' and 'shielding' recommendations are likely to remain in place for many months even as 'lockdown' is progressively lifted. As a city centre resident the prospect of 'socially distant' queues at each bus stop and outside newly reopened stores is worrying! I (briefly) walked in the middle of the road last week to maintain distance from from one of the bank queues.

As I understand it anyway.

Not my understanding. I think the terms are different but the government have made it confusing so may be wrong. The distinction is important though in terms of entitleemnt to SSP and ESA.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults