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Registration of property

Hi,
I do hope someone can help me with the following:
I have bought my property some 45 years ago when there was no such thing as Land Registry.
I am now trying to do a voluntary first registration of my property. I have completed the required FR1 form but am having difficulty with the DL form.
My bundle of Deeds is about 5 cm thick with a considerable number of various documents and I am at a loss to now which I should list and send to the LR.
Any definitive advise on which documents must be submitted would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Mike
Best regards
Mike

When I was young I knew all the answers.
Now I'm only just beginning to understand the questions.

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  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,622 Forumite
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    Your question might be more suited to the Land Registry thread.
  • FreeBear
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    I had a bundle of documents, not quite as thick, but still spanning 95 years of ownership. I sorted and listed everything in date order and sent the whole lot over. My thinking was - If it wasn't needed, then it would be ignored, and if it was included, they wouldn't need to chase for missing docs.
    Just tick the box to say you want everything returned.
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  • greatcrested
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    Three choices:
    1) do as FreeBear suggests and list and send everything. I also recommend getting everything returned and then stored.
    2) sort through the documents, picking out those that are relevant, and just send those
    3) pay a solicitor to sort through the documents, picking out those that are relevant, and sending those

  • mima
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    Hi,
    Many thanks for your kind replies.

    FreeBear,
    The first date in my deeds is 1867 and it took me 18 hours to sort everything in the correct date order. When I started listing the files on the DL form, I almost filled in the form with not even a quarter of the total volume of the documents!

    greatcrested,
    Re: 2), It is not knowing which are and which are not necessary that is my problem and the reason for this post.
    3), This would indeed be the easiest option but with solicitors hourly charges almost twice as much as my monthly income, I would probably have to sell the house first.
    And this is, a Money Saving forum?!

    While I do believe that a large number of the documents, those relating to mortgages for example, would be irrelevant to Land Registry but am I right?
    Some informed hints from a kindly conveyancer as to what can or what must not be left out, would be most helpful not only to me but also to the staff at LR.
    Best regards
    Mike

    When I was young I knew all the answers.
    Now I'm only just beginning to understand the questions.
  • greatcrested
    greatcrested Posts: 5,925 Forumite
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    My house was built in 1851 so I sympathise. Luckily mine was registered but I still have (for historical interest) all the paperwork going back 100+ years.
    Re 2): no one here can tell you which are important and which are not without looking at them! Eve if you tried to categorise them (eg redeemed historical mortages) it would be foolhardy of us to tell you to ignore them without actually seing them and checking. Hence my option 3!
    Yes, it's a moneysaving forum, but sometimes spending money to get it right saves more in the long term.
    The alternative is to not do a voluntary 1st registration! Much cheaper! If /when you sell either
    a) let the buyer do a compulsory 1sr registration, or
    b) ask your solicitor to do voluntary 1st registration at that time and take his fee from the sale income.
  • mima
    mima Posts: 88 Forumite
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    OK, many thanks.
    Best regards
    Mike

    When I was young I knew all the answers.
    Now I'm only just beginning to understand the questions.
  • FreeBear
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    greatcrested said: The alternative is to not do a voluntary 1st registration! Much cheaper! If /when you sell
    The danger here is that it could fall to the executors of the estate, and then they have to scratch around to find the documents. Doing it now will save considerable paperwork (and costs) in the future. A voluntary first registration is quite a bit cheaper than a compulsory one.
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