Previous employer refuses to furlough. No income! Help!

poppy12345

Maybe it's you and not your friend, which is why you're so annoyed.

MH1927

Is the Nursery wholly funded through fees? Or does it recieve Government funding through the free child care scheme?

In the case of later they will not be able to claim the money back. Its futher complicated by nurseries utilising a mix of funding and a lack of guidance how this will effect the ability to claim.

geoff258

It's not actually, I'm still working thankfully. I think you've exhausted your useful comments.

gary83

You came on here and asked the question can she give her savings away to take her under the £16,000 limit? the answer, fairly obviously, is no. People have advised you the options are to look at JSA or try and get her old employer to rehire & furlough her. Otherwise she’ll have to use her money to support herself.

The furlough scheme isn’t going to be changed to be means tested. There’s going to be no figures made available as to how many, if any, millionaires got paid to sit at home. dwelling on that isn’t going to help her.

pjcox2005

I understand why you think it's unfair and it's admirable that you want it to change, but the point people are trying to make is that no Government scheme is fair. You're just looking at it from neighbours point of view and looking at others with more as unfair.

Others are trying to say that no system will be fair and can please everyone:
Furlough all that have lost jobs, and some wealthy people will benefit when they can support themselves - others pay more in tax. Not fair? Others have to carry on working for same money - not fair.
Have a universal income that went to everyone - fair, but issue you're giving money to those who don't need it reducing payments to those deprived - many would see that as a waste, not fair.
Remove savings limit from benefits - those with savings will say fair as they shouldn't be punished for rainy day fund, those without will say unfair as preventing them having more when those with savings are fine.

I didn't vote conservative, there are big holes still with some missing out, but the safety net they've provided for so many is absolutely huge when there is a question whether more should be able to support themselves for a 3 month period (appreciate it will have a much longer impact).

By all means continue to lobby, they move furloughed date once. I think personally highlighting it to old employer using guidance Martin gives may be best. They may be able to change mind once they see the funds have come through next week rather than before when they'd feel it's just a risk for them.

I think others just see a safety net is there with the savings so not as pressing a case compared to those with literally nothing.

poppy12345

You came for advice, which you've been given. I'm sorry that advice hasn't been what you would have liked. Maybe you should tell your friend to speak to their former employer again. If not then New style JSA it is.

geoff258

My main bug bear is that there is a glaring error in the way the government has gone about the furlough system which had left my friend with no income through no fault of her own, and who was on a lowly wage in the first place.

And let's face it, the government's whole handling of the Coronavirus crisis has left much to be desired..

DCFC79

The posters who have provided you with the advice needed. It is what it is, she needs to claim UC, she will get the National Insurance paid.

She might be able to find a job with 1 of the employers who were hiring.

geoff258

UC?       

p00hsticks

geoff258 said:

UC?       

Universal Credit - but as others have said, her savings will mean she isn't entitled - she needs to see if she can claim new style JSA