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Witness statement served.......nothing received from Claimant

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gbbe
gbbe Posts: 95 Forumite
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edited 17 April 2020 at 5:19PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
I had to start a new thread as my old one was closed....
Here is a link to my previous thread:
I filed all my paperwork (witness statement, supplemental witness statement and exhibits) with the court in person and by email on 7/4. I also posted the claimants bundle on the same day and retained proof of postage.
No claimants bundle arried for me by the deadline of 4pm on 14th as stated on the CO and still hasnt to this date.
Its annoying that MCOL is not updating because then i could at least see if the claimant sent a W/S to the court.
The hearing itself isnt until july but its frustrating that i complied with the CO while they clearly do not care about court process, they havent even paid the hearing fee at this point, hopefully this will be taken into consideration and the hearing will be struck out!
Do i just sit tight and wait until MCOL is updated to see if the claimant sent a W/S to the court?
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 17 April 2020 at 1:51PM
    It's nothing to do with mcol as they are not a court and it's nothing to do with the current situation either

    They passed the case to your local court months ago at which point they had no further involvement so you are wasting your time looking on there for anything by yourself or the claimant

    I suggest you check the latest court advice by coupon mad and bargepole posted today
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    edited 17 April 2020 at 1:29PM
    A telephone hearing may well be age and BEM discriminatory.  Do some reading.

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  • gbbe
    gbbe Posts: 95 Forumite
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    Redx said:
    It's nothing to do with mcol as they are not a court and it's nothing to do with the current situation either
    really? I thought everything was logged on the MCOL system.
    Thats annoying, now i wont know if the claimant complied with the order and send the statement to the court.
    Ralph-y said:
    NEW ADVICE
    Anticipate a Telephone Hearing and email the local court, save your ink
    already served it as per my CO, my hearing isnt set to go ahead until july so should i be expecting this to happen sooner now?

    All very frustrating and disappointing as i spent so long compiling a witness statement and made sure it arrived at court ahead of the time and the claimant who has all the details of any possible evidence i will rely on and they have served me nothing.

    Surely if it does go to a telephone hearing the claimant will be unable to rely on any evidence from their witness statement as i have never seen a copy of it?
  • KeithP
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    gbbe said:
    Surely if it does go to a telephone hearing the claimant will be unable to rely on any evidence from their witness statement as i have never seen a copy of it?
    Why not read that thread that Ralph-y directed you towards?
    You will then understand that you and the Claimant are required to agree on the total package of documentation that is put in front of a judge.
  • gbbe
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    edited 17 April 2020 at 5:29PM
    KeithP said:
    gbbe said:
    Surely if it does go to a telephone hearing the claimant will be unable to rely on any evidence from their witness statement as i have never seen a copy of it?
    Why not read that thread that Ralph-y directed you towards?
    You will then understand that you and the Claimant are required to agree on the total package of documentation that is put in front of a judge.
    I have read the thread. I have NOT received notification of a telephone hearing.
    My Court instructions stated i had to serve the claimant and the court a witness statement by 4pm on 14th April. So i did as ordered. The Claimant hasnt.

    My question stands, IF i get notiification of a telephone hearing, how can the claimant rely on any evidence at all when they have not complied with directions from the court to serve me a witness statement? I am not going to agree to the claimant putting their witness statement to the judge when ive not even seen it!!
  • Umkomaas
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    My question stands, IF i get notiification of a telephone hearing, how can the claimant rely on any evidence at all when they have not complied with directions from the court to serve me a witness statement?
    Their WS may be served slightly late - unusual circumstances and all that?  But you're asking a parking forum a question to which only a Judge is likely to be able to give you an answer.
    I am not going to agree to the claimant putting their witness statement to the judge when ive not even seen it!!
    The new Orders seem to require the D and C to submit an agreed, single bundle, that will need to include both WSs. 

    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • gbbe
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    Umkomaas said:
    My question stands, IF i get notiification of a telephone hearing, how can the claimant rely on any evidence at all when they have not complied with directions from the court to serve me a witness statement?
    Their WS may be served slightly late - unusual circumstances and all that?  But you're asking a parking forum a question to which only a Judge is likely to be able to give you an answer.
    good point, suppose all i can do is wait and see what happens
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Have you told the court you've not been served? It would be an obvious step to take. 
  • gbbe
    gbbe Posts: 95 Forumite
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    Have you told the court you've not been served? It would be an obvious step to take. 
    absolutely, im currently drafting an email to the court and will send it to their enquiries email
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