V11 Vehicle Tax reminder is incorrect

My V11 shows a renewal price of £465, but changes in the budget have reduced my annual tax to £150 (DVLA vehicle tax rates page confirms this).
DVLA are not open to the general public for telephone enquiries, there email response refers me to their web pages.
If I try to pay on-line i am being asked for £465
I cannot go to a Post Office (and I'm not certain they could help anyway)
How do I make the correct payment before May 1st?
thanks
Paul  

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  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,486 Forumite
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    edited 16 April 2020 at 11:45AM
    Why would they reduce your tax in the Budget?
    The £465 rate, (if indeed it is £465, the dotGov tables are full of errors, they claim it is £325 extra on the standard rate, which would make it £475) applies from years 2 to 6.

    We think the V149 has it right, £465 would be for an alternative fuel car which is £140 a year after the 6th year. 

    You can find out what they think you should pay by putting your V5 number into the checker at https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?locale=en

    If that says £150, then try and tax it with the V5 number not the V11



    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • AdrianC
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    paulbw said:
    My V11 shows a renewal price of £465, but changes in the budget have reduced my annual tax to £150 (DVLA vehicle tax rates page confirms this).
    DVLA are not open to the general public for telephone enquiries, there email response refers me to their web pages.
    If I try to pay on-line i am being asked for £465
    I cannot go to a Post Office (and I'm not certain they could help anyway)
    How do I make the correct payment before May 1st?
    I think you're misinterpreting the website.

    You don't say when your car was new.

    Vehicles first registered between March 2001 and April 2017 are CO2-taxed still. But there's no band that corresponds to £465.
    https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001

    Vehicles registered since April 2017 are flat-rate VED after the first payment - £150, plus £325 at any tax purchase prior to the fifth anniversary of their first registration, if they were over £40k list price when new.
    https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables
    Obviously, any post-2017 car cannot yet be 5yo.
    So the premium still applies. It went up in the budget from £145 + £320 = £465 to £150 + £325 = £475. V11s around this time of year always carry a caveat that the price may change because of the budget. Without further detail, I'd suspect this is the most likely situation to apply to you...
  • car was registered April 2018
    It's petrol with a CO2 rating of 141G/KM
    it was less than £40K
    This is from the DVLA web pages:

    Rates for second tax payment onwards

    Fuel typeSingle 12 month paymentSingle 12 month payment by Direct DebitTotal of 12 monthly payments by Direct DebitSingle 6 month paymentSingle 6 month payment by Direct Debit
    Petrol or diesel£150£150£152.25£79.75£76.13



    If I go to the Vehicle Certification Agency web page and enter my car details, as a used car, it also tells me that my car is subject to £150 annual tax
  • facade
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    Then try and tax it with your V5 by claiming not to have the V11 and see what it says the cost is.

    What was the full manufacturers list price of your car including options? as it is this that sets the tax, not the price you actually paid. (I think the price has to include delivery too)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • AdrianC
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    edited 16 April 2020 at 2:03PM
    "It was less than £40k"?
    -or-
    "The list price, including all options, was less than £40k"?

    There's a big difference. The only way it was more than £145 last year is if the list was £40k+. <£40k and 141g/km would have been £205 VED for the first payment, then £140-145-150 for subsequent. The liability for the premium has not changed.

    Put your registration into https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ and then your V5C doc ref, and it'll tell you exactly what YOUR PRECISE CAR should be.
  • Marvel1
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    Did you have the car since first registration?
    How much did you pay last year when it was renewed?
  • I am having the exact same issue with my 1 year old smart car, I wrote in recorded delivery with all the required details on 6th May to sort it all out and still no reply, they have treated my car as over 40k at new and it wasnt. I have sent in a copy of the 2019 list price, what I paid last year that was correc. Car tax runs out today, I'm a key worker in a pharmacy and now cannot legally drive my car as I wont tax at the wrong amount as I have read they will not refund the difference! Let me know how you get on, the one man i did speak to was quite intolerant and officious in email and on the phone and made me feel a fraud for ringing through on the key worker helpline  as i was not a lorry driver or a brain surgeon and did not consider my issue important enough to help.
  • photome
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    Doubt the OP will be back, its a shame as his solution may well have helped you
  • AdrianC
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    edited 1 June 2020 at 8:20AM
    they have treated my car as over 40k at new and it wasnt. I have sent in a copy of the 2019 list price, what I paid last year that was correc.
    The list price details are sent by the manufacturer to DVLA at the time of first reg. Are you absolutely 100% sure that the price list you're waving around is the one in force at the date of first reg, and you're taking account of all options?
    What do you think the applicable list price should be? Just under £40k, or WAAAAAY under?
    Have you confirmed with MBUK that your figures and assumptions are correct?
    Car tax runs out today, I'm a key worker in a pharmacy and now cannot legally drive my car as I wont tax at the wrong amount as I have read they will not refund the difference!
    Such is your prerogative, of course, to refuse to use the car. I presume, if you're SORNing it, that it's physically off the road?

    You have, I presume, had the V5C in your possession since acquiring the car? That states on it if the car is liable to the additional rate VED, and to what date, AIUI... Yet you've waited until the V11 arrived to query that?
  • daveyjp
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    edited 1 June 2020 at 8:39AM
    You would be hard pressed to get a smart car over £30k, never mind £40k.

    However smarts are sold by Mercedes and a large number of their new car registrations will be above £40k.  It only takes one fat finger when entering data for a smart car to be mis registered.
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