Left job early Feb - Furlough?

JD2018

I left my old employer on the 5th Feb and received a settlement package to terminate my contract. I received my final payment from this company on the 25th Feb. They are a large company who look after their people and have no cash flow issues. 

I started with my new employer the day after I left my old job, 4 weeks ago I was told that my contract was being terminated due to uncertainty around coronavirus. This company have refused to put me on Furlough. 

Am I eligible to be re-hired and put on Furlough by my old employer, even though I did not leave there due to Coronavirus and even though I left them at the start of February, before the 28th Feb cut off date?

thanks

poppy12345

Of course your previous employer can furlough you but they don't have to do this. You'll need to speak to them. If not then providing you don't have savings/capital over £16,000 then use a benefits calculator to check entitlement for Universal Credit.

Jeremy535897

poppy12345 said:

Of course your previous employer can furlough you but they don't have to do this. You'll need to speak to them. If not then providing you don't have savings/capital over £16,000 then use a benefits calculator to check entitlement for Universal Credit.

I think OP left the previous employment too early to be rehired and furloughed.

"If you were made redundant or stopped working for your employer after 28 February 2020

Your employer can agree to re-employ you and place you on furlough. They’ll still be able to claim a grant to cover 80% of your regular wages, up to a monthly cap of £2,500 if you were on your employer’s PAYE payroll on 28 February 2020."

Mrsn

I think OP left the previous employment too early to be rehired and furloughed.

"If you were made redundant or stopped working for your employer after 28 February 2020

Your employer can agree to re-employ you and place you on furlough. They’ll still be able to claim a grant to cover 80% of your regular wages, up to a monthly cap of £2,500 if you were on your employer’s PAYE payroll on 28 February 2020."

Yes I think that too would be correct, it would be up to the most recent employer who by the sounds of it are reluctant to do so.

poppy12345

Jeremy535897 said:

poppy12345 said:

Of course your previous employer can furlough you but they don't have to do this. You'll need to speak to them. If not then providing you don't have savings/capital over £16,000 then use a benefits calculator to check entitlement for Universal Credit.

I think OP left the previous employment too early to be rehired and furloughed.

"If you were made redundant or stopped working for your employer after 28 February 2020

Your employer can agree to re-employ you and place you on furlough. They’ll still be able to claim a grant to cover 80% of your regular wages, up to a monthly cap of £2,500 if you were on your employer’s PAYE payroll on 28 February 2020."

Thanks. Re-employ is what i meant, just forgot to add the words.

JD2018

I left on the 5th but was paid on 25th. So not sure if I would have been on the payroll on 28th. It’s a long shot and would rather have been placed on Furlough by my more recent employer, but that won’t happen. 

Jeremy535897

poppy12345 said:

Thanks. Re-employ is what i meant, just forgot to add the words.

But he left his old employment before 28 February 2020, so won't have been on their payroll on that date. 

JD2018

My final pay from my old job was 25th Feb and first pay from new job was 29th. (Just logged into HMRC online to check). I’m not sure what exactly determines if you were on PAYE on 28th?

sharpe106

They could re-employ you if they still wanted you. I do not think you can claim for furlough as you left too early. At the start of February we barely had  any cases and the ones we did have had come from abroad. 
Also if you return to your old company you might find they want the settlement package back. 

Jeremy535897

With regard to your old job, what was the date on your P45? I suspect it will be 25 February. If so, you cannot be furloughed by them, even if they rehired you.
With regard to your new job, if your first pay date was 29 February, they will have completed the FPS for you at some time between 26 and 29 February inclusive (it seems likely that the date of a new employee's first FPS will be used for the test as to whether they were on the payroll at 28 February 2020). 29 February (a Saturday) would be too late.
There are some technical issues around redundancy and continuity of employment, and I don't think you can be asked to return redundancy pay. I can't see why your old employer would rehire you if they can't furlough you.

JD2018

Jeremy535897 said:

With regard to your old job, what was the date on your P45? I suspect it will be 25 February. If so, you cannot be furloughed by them, even if they rehired you.
With regard to your new job, if your first pay date was 29 February, they will have completed the FPS for you at some time between 26 and 29 February inclusive (it seems likely that the date of a new employee's first FPS will be used for the test as to whether they were on the payroll at 28 February 2020). 29 February (a Saturday) would be too late.
There are some technical issues around redundancy and continuity of employment, and I don't think you can be asked to return redundancy pay. I can't see why your old employer would rehire you if they can't furlough you.

The leaving date on my P45 from my original Employer is 4th February 2020. So I guess this means that I am not able to be put on Furlough by them? Shame, as thought this may have been my lightbulb moment last night. 
Unfortunately it's not worth discussing furlough from the most recent employer, it simply won't happen.