Legal Claim for damages against Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd

NeilCr

nosferatu1001 said:

Not talking about the same thing here. 

They just did a simple vote 
that's not at all what I'm talking about as being required under the l&ta
which is a formal consultation. 

Quite

OP. 

Do you and your fellow leaseholders actually own the freehold of the block (I am assuming the properties are flats) and the car park

Because, if you do, I'd be calling for a special general meeting. And you'd be taking action, in a way, against yourselves if there is a Residents Management Company

Or is it that there is a separate freeholder and the residents group is "advisory".

Either way, though, noseferatu is right that the "vote" has to be done properly.

Did you ask why you weren't allowed to vote. The whole thing is bizarre!

parkingticketsfightbacksas

NeilCr said:

nosferatu1001 said:

Not talking about the same thing here. 

They just did a simple vote 
that's not at all what I'm talking about as being required under the l&ta
which is a formal consultation. 

Quite

OP. 

Do you and your fellow leaseholders actually own the freehold of the block (I am assuming the properties are flats) and the car park

Because, if you do, I'd be calling for a special general meeting. And you'd be taking action, in a way, against yourselves if there is a Residents Management Company

Or is it that there is a separate freeholder and the residents group is "advisory".

Either way, though, noseferatu is right that the "vote" has to be done properly.

Did you ask why you weren't allowed to vote. The whole thing is bizarre!

There is without doubt a case of double standards as tenants (not flat owners) were also allowed to vote and not us. 

nosferatu1001

Can you get past that bit, and tell us why, and exactly what rights your lease?

youve got to take action, we've not seen your plans for that yet. 

D_P_Dance

Tenants should never be allowed ti vote.  I had one tenant who was a bit of a trouble maker, I advised the MA to ignore any letters from him.  

Fruitcake

I'm struggling with this. You have been asked many questions but have not answered all of them.
You refer to an allocated space yet say you bought it. If you own the space including the freehold then I would assume you would not be invited to vote or indeed entitled to vote about actions on land owned by someone else. 

If you pay ground rent then I think that means you have bought the exclusive right to use the space but do not actually own it. You may be able to buy the freehold by offering something like 10X the annual ground rent amount.

Either way, whoever employed the scammers should have put your space on a white list, either by quoting the space number or marking it on a map. If they failed to do this then they are jointly responsible for the actions of the parking scammers, and equally responsible for any data breach that occurs as a result.

In addition, if you own the space then the DVLA are complicit in a DPA/GDPR breach by providing your personal details to the scammers and failed to check the scammers had the right to obtain your data without your permission. They did not take reasonable care or due operate due diligence or whatever the correct term would be. If that is the case then you should make two complaints to the DVLA; one for a data breach and one for a KADOE breach to 

ccrt@dvla.gov.uk and KADOEservice.support@dvla.gov.uk

Instruct them to put a note on your records that they are prohibited from releasing your data concerning this location to anyone without your permission.

You could also report the DVLA to the ICO for this data breach.

Complain to your MP about this unregulated scam as well as to Robert Jenrick MP, as well as asking them to investigate why the DVLA released your personal data to a parking scammer even though you own the land where the alleged event occurred. Include a copy of your land registry entry.

NeilCr

Fruitcake said:

I'm struggling with this. You have been asked many questions but have not answered all of them.

Me, too!

Not many answers and new information drip fed in. 

Half_way

In order to get helop and advice, all the required information is required, otherwise it could be a case of barking up the wrong tree, and wasting time that could be spent with other people who need it

parkingticketsfightbacksas

Fruitcake said:

I'm struggling with this. You have been asked many questions but have not answered all of them.
You refer to an allocated space yet say you bought it. If you own the space including the freehold then I would assume you would not be invited to vote or indeed entitled to vote about actions on land owned by someone else. 

If you pay ground rent then I think that means you have bought the exclusive right to use the space but do not actually own it. You may be able to buy the freehold by offering something like 10X the annual ground rent amount.

Either way, whoever employed the scammers should have put your space on a white list, either by quoting the space number or marking it on a map. If they failed to do this then they are jointly responsible for the actions of the parking scammers, and equally responsible for any data breach that occurs as a result.

In addition, if you own the space then the DVLA are complicit in a DPA/GDPR breach by providing your personal details to the scammers and failed to check the scammers had the right to obtain your data without your permission. They did not take reasonable care or due operate due diligence or whatever the correct term would be. If that is the case then you should make two complaints to the DVLA; one for a data breach and one for a KADOE breach to 

ccrt@dvla.gov.uk and KADOEservice.support@dvla.gov.uk

Instruct them to put a note on your records that they are prohibited from releasing your data concerning this location to anyone without your permission.

You could also report the DVLA to the ICO for this data breach.

Complain to your MP about this unregulated scam as well as to Robert Jenrick MP, as well as asking them to investigate why the DVLA released your personal data to a parking scammer even though you own the land where the alleged event occurred. Include a copy of your land registry entry.

If you have read my post well I had phoned the parking company and told them I had never appointed their company to do parking enforcement in my own allocated parking space when I first saw the parking signs
 but they sill went in and put a PCN on my car couple of weeks later.

Umkomaas

mikestevenyoungsas said:

Fruitcake said:

I'm struggling with this. You have been asked many questions but have not answered all of them.
You refer to an allocated space yet say you bought it. If you own the space including the freehold then I would assume you would not be invited to vote or indeed entitled to vote about actions on land owned by someone else. 

If you pay ground rent then I think that means you have bought the exclusive right to use the space but do not actually own it. You may be able to buy the freehold by offering something like 10X the annual ground rent amount.

Either way, whoever employed the scammers should have put your space on a white list, either by quoting the space number or marking it on a map. If they failed to do this then they are jointly responsible for the actions of the parking scammers, and equally responsible for any data breach that occurs as a result.

In addition, if you own the space then the DVLA are complicit in a DPA/GDPR breach by providing your personal details to the scammers and failed to check the scammers had the right to obtain your data without your permission. They did not take reasonable care or due operate due diligence or whatever the correct term would be. If that is the case then you should make two complaints to the DVLA; one for a data breach and one for a KADOE breach to 

ccrt@dvla.gov.uk and KADOEservice.support@dvla.gov.uk

Instruct them to put a note on your records that they are prohibited from releasing your data concerning this location to anyone without your permission.

You could also report the DVLA to the ICO for this data breach.

Complain to your MP about this unregulated scam as well as to Robert Jenrick MP, as well as asking them to investigate why the DVLA released your personal data to a parking scammer even though you own the land where the alleged event occurred. Include a copy of your land registry entry.

If you have read my post well I had phoned the parking company and told them I had never appointed their company to do parking enforcement in my own allocated parking space when I first saw the parking signs
 but they sill went in and put a PCN on my car couple of weeks later.

What exactly were you expecting from a phone call? 

Redx

Please answer the questions you have been asked re ownership or lease