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Smell in my house from next door
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keithgillyon wrote: »i do feel sorry for all the non-smokers on here & the smell you don't like, but have you thought how much money the smokers of this country put into the government & then into the NHS, if smoking was banned this country would be in an even bigger mess & prices would have to go up on everything, so you may not like the smell but it does put a lot of money into the pot (why do you think the government is so against you buying from abroad), anyway just my 5p worth.
That has to be the worst argument I have ever heard pro smoking.0 -
Should an Indian family who only cook currys change their diet because you don't like the smell?
Sadly I think the only sane response is no and that it's your responsibility to seal your home from them. That may be a big job taking up the floorboards and sealing all the joists but that's probably the only way around it.
Jaynne - I think the FAIR response would be for THEM to have to seal up their house so that their 'pleasures' don't interfere with my family's quality of life.. I'm not the one with a habit that disturbs them.
However, I concede that it's not likely that anyone will legislate in my favour (even though there are LOADS of laws that go against landlords and makes them fix it if this happens in apartment buildings), so I have purchased some spray-foam and I'm just about ready to use it. (Once regular life-stuff gives me a window.)0 -
Car fumes don't cause cancer and stroke.
This may be news to you then http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jun/12/diesel-fumes-cause-cancer-whoYou may click thanks if you found my advice useful0 -
That has to be the worst argument I have ever heard pro smoking.
really just look at the facts, smoking brings the government approx £10 billion a year in duty, the cost to the NHS due to smoking related problems is between £2 billion & £5 billion a year, so even if you take the highest amount that still means the government will be £5 billion a year worse off, so where do you think this short fall will be made up, more fuel duty, higher road tax, income tax going up ? any or all of these things, so if everyone gave up smoking it would cost all of us more, you may not like the smell or anything else about smoking but you can't argue with the facts.I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0 -
keithgillyon wrote: »really just look at the facts, smoking brings the government approx £10 billion a year in duty, the cost to the NHS due to smoking related problems is between £2 billion & £5 billion a year, so even if you take the highest amount that still means the government will be £5 billion a year worse off, so where do you think this short fall will be made up, more fuel duty, higher road tax, income tax going up ? any or all of these things, so if everyone gave up smoking it would cost all of us more, you may not like the smell or anything else about smoking but you can't argue with the facts.
What you haven't factored in to your extremely flimsy analysis is what cost are you putting on the lives of those dying? What about the lost productivity of those in and out of hospital or the benefit bill of those people now unable work due to COPD or terminal cancers? I suppose you are going to balance that against the fact that these people won't be claiming pensions at all or for long so we're even better off if more people smoke.
The economic argument is one of the worst ones you could possibly put forward for smoking. How about going for the one where you should at least have the liberty to kill yourself whatever way you please so long as it doesn't impact of the health and well being of others which I for one fully support.0 -
i'm not going to win this augument so i'm not even going to bother trying, i'm now going to have a fag in my own home before people like you ban that as well.I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0 -
I think you missed the bit where I said I support your right to smoke, in your home if you like just not in my face.
I detest the smell of smoke and think you're nuts to want to ingest something quite so toxic and addictive but that's your choice not mine.0 -
Unbelieveable NIMBYisms?
I can think of far worse habits than this thread is about, like how many of you drink for instance, how many of you WHINGE constantly, how many of you are unable to think for yourselves or make decisions for yourselves, and how many of you have faults yourselves?
There are also the bad habits of some people on this Forum to?
I can only suggest that theres plenty of room in the Brazilian Rain Forest, just watch out for Monkey Cr**, but you wont have a problem with BS!Signature removed0 -
I believe some attached houses share a cavity wall. Where there are air vents through the wall, they may not be sealed around the cavity. So, air can enter the cavity wall through the vent in one house and migrate in to the attached house through their vents. Anyway, if you have any take the cover off the wall and see if the cavity is accessible inside. If they are, you need to have them sleeved properly to that the air vent only takes in air from outside and not from the cavity as well. If they are lined, they might be leaky and need some silicone sealant around the gaps. It's a good idea to do this anyway as it reduces the chances of insects getting in the wall cavity (I've had wasps before) and it will be needed if you ever have insulation put in the cavity in the future too.
Edit to mention, it has just occurred to me that some devices used in houses may make the amount of air transfer worse. Extractor fans and gas appliances, for example gas fires or back boilers push air out of the house creating mild negative pressure inside which causes replacement air to be drawn in through gaps such as those around the windows and also I'm sure any gaps leading to your neighbours house. If it's a gas appliance you might struggle to not use it - although making sure there's adequate ventilation in the form of an air brick might provide an easier path for air flow from elsewhere (just make sure it's properly sleeved for the reasons mentioned). As for extractor fans in kitchens and bathrooms, maybe passive ventilation from opening windows would be better?0
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