Electrical work certificate

Ectophile

Risteard said:

Hermione_Granger said:

Risteard said:

Hermione_Granger said:

Risteard said:

It is no accident that an Electrical Installation Condition Report does not contain the word "Certificate" whereas an Electrical Installation Certificate (or Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate) does.

Really? Here's just two examples of electrical installation condition reports that contain the word "certificate".
Anyway, all that "certificate" actually means is that it's a document and that the information on it has been certified by someone to state that it is true.

You have merely shown that there is software out there which erroneously uses the word. You will note that the actual document does not contain the word, and indeed the title of the Report does not contain the word. British Standard 7671 is very clear that it is not a certificate but merely a report.

If the report has information on it and someone has signed to state that the information is correct, they have certified that form so by definition, it is a certificate. It doesn't have to have the word "certificate" written on it to make it a certificate.

It contains a declaration. 

Without getting into legal semantics however, BS7671 states explicitly that it is not a certificate. In fact City & Guilds use this as a question in their Inspection and Testing qualifications whereby you get no marks if you falsely describe it as a certificate. 

An Electrical Installation Condition Report is NOT a certificate. FACT. 

It CANNOT be used to certify work. FACT. 

If the person having the work done is happy, and the local council Building Control are happy, than that'sall that matters.  It doesn't matter whether you are happy about it or not.

It doesn't really matter whether it's a certificate, or a report, or a poem on daffodils.  Once the council have accepted it, and signed the work off as satisfactory, then it's done.

Risteard

Ectophile said:

If the person having the work done is happy, and the local council Building Control are happy, than that'sall that matters.

You clearly missed where I stated that many LABCs will NOT accept it, and they certainly are under no obligation to. Part P only applies in England and Wales in case you weren't aware - it does not exist here anyway.

But if you want to see a much stricter system then look at the south of Ireland whereby you can be jailed and/or fined substantially for DIY work or work done by a contractor who is not a member of RECI.

lesalanos

Risteard said:

Ectophile said:

If the person having the work done is happy, and the local council Building Control are happy, than that'sall that matters.

You clearly missed where I stated that many LABCs will NOT accept it, and they certainly are under no obligation to. Part P only applies in England and Wales in case you weren't aware - it does not exist here anyway.

But if you want to see a much stricter system then look at the south of Ireland whereby you can be jailed and/or fined substantially for DIY work or work done by a contractor who is not a member of RECI.

Out of interest, which LABCs will not accept it?
Speaking to lots of people I've yet to hear of any