Minster Baywatch PCN - Can Anything Be Done

Imperial1847

We are a small maintenance company that works nationwide, we recently did a job on Heslington Retail Park in York that lasted around 6 hours with one of our companies vehicles on site for the duration, we then received a PCN from the above mentioned company, our admin followed the original appeal process stating that we were on site for urgent maintenance reasons but this was rejected on the grounds that we had not given prior notice, is there anything we can do?

Fruitcake

Was the appeal made as driver or keeper? Hopefully the latter.
Was a PoPLA code included with the rejection? If so, use it by following the advice in the third post of the NEWBIES.
Standard appeal points where relevant would include,

Not the landowner
No standing (no valid contract) to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Non PoFA compliant NTK
BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant

What happened when your company complained to the landowner?

Has a complaint been made to your MP yet pointing out how this unregulated scam is adversely affecting local business?

Coupon-mad

Complain to the landowner.  You certainly don't pay this.

Redx

See the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum

Stage 1 is a landowner cancellation via a complaint

The best option is always a landowner cancellation , so now you know what to do

D_P_Dance

Yes, you can ignore them, if they take you to court sometime next year, (if they have not gone bust),  they would  lily crash and burn .

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6116701/let-us-ignore-all-pcns-not-for-milquetoasts/p1

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Imperial1847

Fruitcake said:

Was the appeal made as driver or keeper? Hopefully the latter.
Was a PoPLA code included with the rejection? If so, use it by following the advice in the third post of the NEWBIES.
Standard appeal points where relevant would include,

Not the landowner
No standing (no valid contract) to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Non PoFA compliant NTK
BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant

What happened when your company complained to the landowner?

Has a complaint been made to your MP yet pointing out how this unregulated scam is adversely affecting local business?

The appeal was made as the keeper and yes there is a POPLA code. 

We haven't complained to the landowner at this stage.

Imperial1847

Fruitcake said:

Was the appeal made as driver or keeper? Hopefully the latter.
Was a PoPLA code included with the rejection? If so, use it by following the advice in the third post of the NEWBIES.
Standard appeal points where relevant would include,

Not the landowner
No standing (no valid contract) to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Non PoFA compliant NTK
BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant

What happened when your company complained to the landowner?

Has a complaint been made to your MP yet pointing out how this unregulated scam is adversely affecting local business?

Just to make sure I'm on the right lines is it the Landlord Authority link  need to follow on the sticky?

Redx

topley4718 said:

Fruitcake said:

Was the appeal made as driver or keeper? Hopefully the latter.
Was a PoPLA code included with the rejection? If so, use it by following the advice in the third post of the NEWBIES.
Standard appeal points where relevant would include,

Not the landowner
No standing (no valid contract) to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Non PoFA compliant NTK
BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant

What happened when your company complained to the landowner?

Has a complaint been made to your MP yet pointing out how this unregulated scam is adversely affecting local business?

The appeal was made as the keeper and yes there is a POPLA code. 

We haven't complained to the landowner at this stage.

Then do both , but leave the popla appeal until at least day 28

The landowner complaint was and still is what should be done , extremely important and unbelievable that it's not already been done

You won't find any landowner links on the sticky thread

Imperial1847

Redx said:

topley4718 said:

Fruitcake said:

Was the appeal made as driver or keeper? Hopefully the latter.
Was a PoPLA code included with the rejection? If so, use it by following the advice in the third post of the NEWBIES.
Standard appeal points where relevant would include,

Not the landowner
No standing (no valid contract) to issue charges in their own name
Inadequate signage
Non PoFA compliant NTK
BPA CoP failures
Anything else relevant

What happened when your company complained to the landowner?

Has a complaint been made to your MP yet pointing out how this unregulated scam is adversely affecting local business?

The appeal was made as the keeper and yes there is a POPLA code. 

We haven't complained to the landowner at this stage.

Then do both , but leave the popla appeal until at least day 28

The landowner complaint was and still is what should be done , extremely important and unbelievable that it's not already been done

You won't find any landowner links on the sticky thread

It was our admin that appealed first time round so were not aware of the landowner complaint, is there a process to doing this?

Le_Kirk

It was our admin that appealed first time round so were not aware of the landowner complaint, is there a process to doing this?

Yes, find out who the landowner is a write a stiff but polite letter of complaint finishing with a request for cancellation because .................

Fruitcake

If the landowner hasn't cancelled this by around day 26 then appeal to PoPLA using all the relevant points available to you from the third post of the NEWBIES.

Post your draft appeal here for checking before it is submitted.

Don't forget the all important complaint to the Company Director/Owner's MP about this unregulated scam.