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Sign the petition for a new NI number for everyone affected by lost HMRC discs

nomadicwesti
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Hi everyone. The number one way to limit the damage of the data lost on teh HMRC discs being used to steal yours and your kids identity is for teh govt to issue a new NI number to all of us.
The only way to get this heard is to sign the petition on teh Downing St website
Here is the link. Please forward this link to everyone you know.
The govt incompetance will affect us for years to come...
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NewNINunber/
Cheers,
Bryan
The only way to get this heard is to sign the petition on teh Downing St website
Here is the link. Please forward this link to everyone you know.
The govt incompetance will affect us for years to come...
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NewNINunber/
Cheers,
Bryan
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A new NI number? Heck, the scope for them screwing that up or issuing them to all and sundry is massive. I hope they don't accidentally allocate mine to someone who's about to retire.0
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nomadicwesti wrote: »Hi everyone. The number one way to limit the damage of the data lost on teh HMRC discs being used to steal yours and your kids identity is for teh govt to issue a new NI number to all of us.
The only way to get this heard is to sign the petition on teh Downing St website
Here is the link. Please forward this link to everyone you know.
The govt incompetance will affect us for years to come...
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NewNINunber/
Cheers,
Bryan
This would cause a hundred times more chaos than it would solve!
How many people have been affected by this up to now.
I've been on holiday so only been reading the papers from afar but I've seen no headlines showing these discs a) have been found b)fallen into the wrong hands or c)been shown to be used fraudulently.0 -
This would cause a hundred times more chaos than it would solve!
How many people have been affected by this up to now.
I've been on holiday so only been reading the papers from afar but I've seen no headlines showing these discs a) have been found b)fallen into the wrong hands or c)been shown to be used fraudulently.
Someone that talks sense!
Maybe you would also like to be able to claim the air taxes back for the holiday you are going to take with the compensation for the loss of data?!!! :rolleyes:Gone ... or have I?0 -
nomadicwesti wrote: »Hi everyone. The number one way to limit the damage of the data lost on teh HMRC discs being used to steal yours and your kids identity is for teh govt to issue a new NI number to all of us.
How would changing your NI number limit the damage of the data lost?
I've applied for loans and all sorts and never been asked for my NI number.0 -
I would be more interested if HMRC could offer to tighten security to correctly identify the correct NI number holder when they phone up or write in.Behind every great man is a good womanBeside this ordinary man is a great woman£2 savings jar - now at £3.42:rotfl:0
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No the discs have not been found and there is no evidence that they have fallen into teh wrong hands. the definition of Lost is you don't know teh location. This disc contains data of children who in the coming years identity will be at risk if new NI are not issued. I can change my bank account that's easy if I want to be secure but your NI number can be used for many uses. The value of these discs is in teh millions of pounds and if tehy are in teh wrong hands will not be used immediatly.
Yes teh security is simple to tighten... An encryption of data would suffice. It's as simple as that. A new NI number would be a simple process to to follow and give added security to my kids in teh future that thire identity is not being used elsewhere.
Estimatres of how many people affected...25m.
If you receive child benefot then you and your kids are on the CDs. Simple as that
I dentity theft is the largest financial risk to the ordinary person on teh street in teh coming decade and issuing a new NI number will help givre added protection to all of us whose details are on these CDs. I'd love to think that they are lying in adesk unopened but then I'd like to beleive that smoking ism't really as harmful as they say0 -
Chill out ...
You might get run over by a bus tomorrow ... should we ban all buses?!Estimatres of how many people affected...25m.
Actually, no one has been affected, and hopefully it will stay that way.
Nonetheless, you want 25m new NI numbers to be issued ...
So who pays for the administrative process of issuing these numbers? Printing/ envelope stuffing/ stamps etc.
Who pays the employers to change their payroll systems that are based around an employee's current NI number?
If you personally are going to foot this bill, I'll sign your petition!Gone ... or have I?0 -
nomadicwesti wrote: »but your NI number can be used for many uses.
For what? I'm not being funny but what use is an NI number? Apart from claiming benefits, where they do other checks too and getting a job in your name. But using a false NI to get a job just means your NI contributions are credited to someone else, and anyone trying to steal your identity is not going to get a job and do a days work to o it.nomadicwesti wrote: »The value of these discs is in teh millions of pounds and if tehy are in teh wrong hands will not be used immediatly.
How do you know what they are worth when we don't know what is on them. Bank account and sort code, useless on there own, name and address, you can get that free from any library. NI number, what use is it.
Personally I think people hear the words "personal data" and panic. Instead they should think what information the have given when claiming child benefit and think what use that information would be to someone. And also think about how easy that information is to get hold of anyway.
Personally I don't mind people having my name and address, anyone who has a phone book in my county has it anyway. Bank details, I sell on ebay and give them out to anyone who looks as if they might want it. NI number, nobody has every asked me for that, apart from the hospital when I had a heart attack and I told them I had no idea. They still treated me the same as any other patient, and found it out for themselves anyway.nomadicwesti wrote: »Yes teh security is simple to tighten... An encryption of data would suffice. It's as simple as that.
That's rubbish, encrypted data can be cracked in no time. For every locksmith trying to make a safer lock there are thousands of people trying to break into that lock. The locksmith has no chance of winning.
Also, a disc found with a load of peoples names on is likely to be thrown away as rubbish. A disc that is encrypted with passwords etc. will be seen as something valuable that can be sold to "people who know about these things" After all, it must have a value if you've tried to protect it.0 -
its not me i'm worried about but my children, in ten years time when they are working, someone may well be able to take pension rights or use details , but also what about identifty theft for illegal immigrants, both my sons have n.i. numbers relating directly to their disability payments, this apparently was also on the child ben disks, i dont care about my identity, but what about theirs. its very upsetting and these disks could be in any third world country on hold for many years till we have all forgotten, including the banks!totally debt free:j and mortgage free too 20100
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A NI number records a persons pension contributions and allows them to claim benefits. You can't do anything with it. The only other thing you need it for is if you open an ISA. They're worthless.
Nobody else will be able to take pension rights. They don't just ask for a NI number and then dole out the money. They require proof of identity.
Why don't people wait and see whether the discs are found before going all mentalist?This country is called Great Britain. It would be called Amazing Britain if it wasn't for people like you pulling the average down0
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