We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Sole Director / Coronavirus

Hello, I am the sole director of a (consultancy) limited company and am therefore, in effect, self employed in all but name.
I am paid a mix of salary (PAYE) and dividends.
Would my company be included in this Government 80% system top up?
If not, can you please advise help for sole directors as work has completely fallen off a cliff in the past 2-3 weeks.
Thank you in advance.
Amy
«1

Comments

  • justwhat
    justwhat Posts: 724 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    This one will be interesting. cause unless they put something in place. i can see some people getting a pay rise lol 
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    justwhat said:
    This one will be interesting. cause unless they put something in place. i can see some people getting a pay rise lol 
    How do you work that out?
  • Maybe this is going to mean some directors wish they had paid themselves a higher wage and smaller dividend?
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 21 March 2020 at 11:02AM
    Hello, I am the sole director of a (consultancy) limited company and am therefore, in effect, self employed in all but name.
    I am paid a mix of salary (PAYE) and dividends.
    Would my company be included in this Government 80% system top up?
    If not, can you please advise help for sole directors as work has completely fallen off a cliff in the past 2-3 weeks.
    Thank you in advance.
    Amy
    I'm in the same boat like a lot of freelancers who run their own Ltds. I suspect, as usual, we'll end up falling through the net again and end up having to survive through our own resources.
  • justwhat
    justwhat Posts: 724 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    director Dave Originally employed / PAYE his wife,sister and daughter. 
    Correct me if i am wrong but all the  LTD has to do now is pay them 20% wage and .gov will pay the rest.  Dave is not going to pay them off even if the LTD is running at a loss.
    And surely Dave , if PAYE the .gov is going to pay him, unless they put something in place. (unless like mortgages the count him as SE)

  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If not, can you please advise help for sole directors as work has completely fallen off a cliff in the past 2-3 weeks. Amy
    Universal Credit https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,786 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    All UK businesses are eligible for assistance with wages for furloughed employees. I think that for employers who have one employee (the sole director) there are three difficulties:
    a) whether there is an employment at all (in the probable absence of a contract of employment), or just the office of director
    b) what the rate of pay is, if it fluctuates and/or is supplemented by dividends
    c) how can you actually be furloughed if you are still carrying out duties (for example dealing with a potential claim for wages reimbursement for yourself). To quote the Government from its statement to employees who are furloughed:
    "To qualify for this scheme, you should not undertake work for them (the employer) while you are furloughed."
    Pressure is building for some help for the self employed who are just as affected as businesses in leisure and hospitality, but don't qualify for any of the reliefs for these industries, and do not qualify for the small business grant as they don't occupy property that is free of rates due to SBBR or RRR. I think any such help should view sole director companies in the same light, but we shall have to see.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 21 March 2020 at 12:31PM
    Agree with the above. As a sole director of your Ltd you may well be "employed" as such as you are paid via PAYE but you can't be furloughed, nor can you be sacked as you're still required to carry out the duties of administering your company.
  • Potbellypig
    Potbellypig Posts: 792 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    I was searching for some answers to this too as I'm in the same position. Consultancy company, sole director, only employee and pay myself a wage and a dividend. Expecting the bad news soon and was wondering how or if people like me can even be helped financially during this time. I'm sure all will be revealed soon but I'm not feeling particularly confident in truth. 
  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,786 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    I understand the Chancellor is to make a statement about help for the self-employed very soon, so see what he says. I would hope it would address sole director companies too.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.2K Life & Family
  • 260.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.