Litter Fine

eddddy

born_again said:

Are there any no feeding the pigeon signs up. Which many towns now put up?

Putting up a sign would not magically give enforcement officers the right to issue penalties/fines.

There would have to be bylaws that outlaw the feeding of pigeons.

In any case, the OP says they did not receive a fine for feeding pigeons, they received a fine for littering.

Hermione_Granger

That guidance is for the obligations placed on the landowners in relation to litter, refuse & fly tipping, not for the enforcement of dropping litter. 

I know, that's why I stated that it was guidance and not legislation.
Don't you think it's reasonable to assume that if the government have a definition of what litter is in one guidance document that this interpretation could easily be used by in court when a council is pursuing legal action?

Potbellypig

Ignoring your ridiculous suggestion regarding the wrong time, whilst reading I thought there was something somewhere that says about littering and leaving it there. The poster above has provided the info you should be using to fight this, not the wrong time thing. 

ratmin

Potbellypig said:

Ignoring your ridiculous suggestion regarding the wrong time, whilst reading I thought there was something somewhere that says about littering and leaving it there. The poster above has provided the info you should be using to fight this, not the wrong time thing. 

Why is a ridiculous suggestion? I have seen people get off with parking fines because the attendants have put the wrong time in the same manner.

unholyangel

Hermione_Granger said:

That guidance is for the obligations placed on the landowners in relation to litter, refuse & fly tipping, not for the enforcement of dropping litter. 

I know, that's why I stated that it was guidance and not legislation.
Don't you think it's reasonable to assume that if the government have a definition of what litter is in one guidance document that this interpretation could easily be used by in court when a council is pursuing legal action?

I think its reasonable to assume a council might try to rely on it as they're generally not known for their competence in such matters, but not reasonable to assume it can be relied on as an interpretation a court would accept when the act itself gives an interpretation on what is considered litter in relation to the offence of dropping litter and the guidance is designed as a guide only for the obligations places on councils etc to keep their land free from litter & refuse. Particularly when the legislation includes chewing gum in the definition of litter but the guidance you're referring to states the code of practice/guidance doesn't apply to gum.