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10 years of stock growth wiped?

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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 31,393 Forumite
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    edited 16 March 2020 at 1:15PM
    dunstonh said:
    Kendall80 said:
    Once the 'bottom' is reached you could probably put your money anywhere and achieve excellent results. If only one could find the bottom. Instead, I will be dripping in extra and keeping some available for further large drops.
    Which companies would you invest in? 
    Not companies you see mentioned on the internet.
    What are they called? Where can I find them?
    I wouldn't bother replying , the OP is a forum troll.
  • AlanP_2
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    I wouldn't invest in individual companies as I do not have the time or expertise to analyse them, their market, their competitors, global macro economic trends, national economic trends etc. and nor can I guess at who will be the winners and losers once the covid-19 sitaution plays itself out.

    Which artirlines and travel companies? Who will still be in business in 2-6 months time?

    Please use your Crystal Ball and tell us?
  • moneysaver2x
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    edited 16 March 2020 at 1:26PM
    AlanP_2 said:
    I wouldn't invest in individual companies as I do not have the time or expertise to analyse them, their market, their competitors, global macro economic trends, national economic trends etc. and nor can I guess at who will be the winners and losers once the covid-19 sitaution plays itself out.

    Which artirlines and travel companies? Who will still be in business in 2-6 months time?

    Please use your Crystal Ball and tell us?
    My reasoning is that, when the virus is over or an end is in sight (maybe depends on when a vaccine is deployed), there will be millions of people who want to go on holiday (after having been isolated for several months / holidays cancelled / stuck at home etc.). This pent up demand will create a surge in airline, hotel, and hospitality bookings, globally, causing these stocks to RALLY. The trick is knowing where the bottom is to invest now...
  • Linton
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    k6chris said:
    Linton said:
      If you had invested in the FTSE World Index with reinvested dividends over the past 10 years you would still be up 140%.
    How do you invest in the FTSE World Index?  Is it an ETF??

    Most world index funds are based on the MSCI World Index.  I do not know any fund that tracks the FTSE World Index.  HSBC track the FTSE All-World Index. However Trustnet do not have the MSCI Index on their chart tool.  Any other world index fund would make the same point.

  • cloud_dog
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     My reasoning is that, when the virus is over or an end is in sight (maybe depends on when a vaccine is deployed),
    there will be millions of people who want to go on holiday find out if they have a job or when jobs will become available (after having been isolated for several months / holidays cancelled / stuck at home etc.). This pent up demand will create a surge in airline, hotel, and hospitality bookings, globally, causing these stocks to RALLY. The trick is knowing where the bottom is to invest now...
    Fixed that for you.
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  • Bravepants
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    Vanguard's FTSE Global All Cap Index fund anyone?
    If you want to be rich, live like you're poor; if you want to be poor, live like you're rich.
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  • AlanP_2
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    cloud_dog said:
     
    there will be millions of people who want to go on holiday find out if they have a job or when jobs will become available 
    Fixed that for you.
    That is about the size of it I reckon. Massive layoffs & job losses in the next few months across the globe and it will be a slow recovery from there (and too late for many people, both financially and mortality aspects).
  • Thrugelmir
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    AlanP_2 said:
    I wouldn't invest in individual companies as I do not have the time or expertise to analyse them, their market, their competitors, global macro economic trends, national economic trends etc. and nor can I guess at who will be the winners and losers once the covid-19 sitaution plays itself out.

    Which artirlines and travel companies? Who will still be in business in 2-6 months time?

    Please use your Crystal Ball and tell us?
    My reasoning is that, when the virus is over or an end is in sight (maybe depends on when a vaccine is deployed), there will be millions of people who want to go on holiday (after having been isolated for several months / holidays cancelled / stuck at home etc.). This pent up demand will create a surge in airline, hotel, and hospitality bookings, globally, causing these stocks to RALLY. The trick is knowing where the bottom is to invest now...
    That's if the airlines, airports, hotels, bars and restauarants are still open for business. 
  • coastline
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    edited 16 March 2020 at 5:36PM
    Linton said:
    k6chris said:
    Linton said:
      If you had invested in the FTSE World Index with reinvested dividends over the past 10 years you would still be up 140%.
    How do you invest in the FTSE World Index?  Is it an ETF??

    Most world index funds are based on the MSCI World Index.  I do not know any fund that tracks the FTSE World Index.  HSBC track the FTSE All-World Index. However Trustnet do not have the MSCI Index on their chart tool.  Any other world index fund would make the same point.

    If you chart say a world ETF or similar then as a comparison the MSCI will show in some cases.
    https://www2.trustnet.com/Tools/Charting.aspx?typeCode=NM990100
    Looking at the chart as it stands I see we are back to Jan 2019 levels. Despite this being a bull market for 10 years or more a years gains have been wiped out 5 times. Yes in a bull market.
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