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Gladstone Solicitors - Letter before claim (LPS)

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Daytona246
Daytona246 Posts: 34 Forumite
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edited 9 October 2020 at 11:15AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Afternoon all,
I have received a LBC (30 days to respond) from Gladstones relating to a parking ticket dating back to Julty 2016. The circumstances relating to the ticket were the driver didnt see the signs at the time and received a windscreen invoice for 'non pay and display'. This was never paid. The LBC has the added FAKE £60 if this helps.
The Vehicle was stolen in december 2016 so have no documentation for it.

Any advice greatly appreciated, Thank you!

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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    Have you reas this

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal

    complain to the SRA  about Gladstones, they are fully aware that their claim contains an unlawful amount.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal

    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP., it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and in some cases, cancellation.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.




    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Daytona246
    Daytona246 Posts: 34 Forumite
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    Thank you, Do i now submit a SAR from the PPC?  besdes reporting Gladstones to the SRA Do I need to send them anything at this stage?

    Thanks
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,567 Forumite
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     Do i now submit a SAR from the PPC
    No need to ask, the NEWBIES thread tells you to. 

     Just tell Gs that you are seeking debt advice but deny the debt.  Do not change those phrases.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Daytona246
    Daytona246 Posts: 34 Forumite
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    No need to ask, the NEWBIES thread tells you to. 

     Just tell Gs that you are seeking debt advice but deny the debt.  Do not change those phrases.
    Thank you Coupon-Mad! SAR requested > response received with the usual 14 days
    I dont want to sound silly but is there an example email to Gladstones? What is there email address or do i follow their reference in the LBC letter?

    Kind Regards

  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 13 March 2020 at 9:45PM
    No need to ask, the NEWBIES thread tells you to. 

     Just tell Gs that you are seeking debt advice but deny the debt.  Do not change those phrases.
    Thank you Coupon-Mad! SAR requested > response received with the usual 14 days
    I dont want to sound silly but is there an example email to Gladstones? What is there email address or do i follow their reference in the LBC letter?

    Kind Regards

    There is no sample email for these money scammers but there are real court cases where Gladstones get badly spanked for adding the fake £60.   Available for you to use

    GLADSTONES SPANKED AGAIN, THIS TIME BY THE WORTHING COURT ?
    Claim number F0GF1K4A and we think it was D.J.Harvey
    Gladstones did not bother to turn up again (such a rude bad habit). 
    proudsonofduck was awarded £293.02 with the judge quoting Judge Grand's reasons being ABUSE OF PROCESS and adding ....
    "Deliberate attempt to mislead the court"
    "In contempt of court"
    "Cut and paste witness statement with no attempt to address the defence"

    READ ABOUT THIS HERE
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6113071/win-vs-uk-cpm-gladstones-today#latest

    Gladstones told by Judge .... added £60 NOT LAWFUL
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/76692888#Comment_76692888"nofollow" href="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/76756261#Comment_76756261" title="Link: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/76756261#Comment_76756261">https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/76756261#Comment_76756261"wet behind the ears" rep.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6017649/county-court-claim-private-pcn-from-uk-cpm&page=4
    The judge said the £60 in not lawful and claimant rep said they no longer are seeking it (so only the £100). ???
    GLADSTONES CAUGHT OUT IN COURT AGAIN

    THIS IS THE DEMISE OF A VERY DODGY LEGAL WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT "TIME IS UP"
  • D_P_Dance
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    If in doubte, read the stickies.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,567 Forumite
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    There is no template needed for emailing one line where I gave you both phrases!  Obviously use formal salutations (the rather sexist 'Dear Sirs' is the normal one when addressing a solicitor). 

    No starting ''Hi'' in the email, like some posters unbelievably keep doing.  My lovely and intelligent University student kids don't know how to write formal emails either, they always ask me.  People aren't taught formal salutations & 'letter sign offs' these days.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Daytona246
    Daytona246 Posts: 34 Forumite
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    There is no template needed for emailing one line where I gave you both phrases!  Obviously use formal salutations (the rather sexist 'Dear Sirs' is the normal one when addressing a solicitor). 

    No starting ''Hi'' in the email, like some posters unbelievably keep doing.  My lovely and intelligent University student kids don't know how to write formal emails either, they always ask me.  People aren't taught formal salutations & 'letter sign offs' these days.
    Thank you, I have emailed enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk from searching around. Used both phrases in the email so just one line! 
  • Hi all, hope everyone is okay in this crisis!
    Received my SAR back. I have a couple of questions. It looks like they have relied on POFA in the notice to keeper. It was received over 28 days after the windscreen ticket. It attached a copy of the photos of the car (no signage in these) and one of the payment machine. Am I banged to rights here? I never appealed initially due to a bereavement at the time...

    Besides abuse of process and possible lack of signage is there anything I can add to a defence to make it a strong case? 


    Kind regards 
    Daytona246

  • Umkomaas
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    Which parking company?  LPS could be one of three:

    Local Parking Security
    London Parking Solutions
    Llanwnroc Parking Services

    It looks like they have relied on POFA in the notice to keeper
    They might be attempting to rely on PoFA, but unless they meet all of the Act's requirements, they cannot transfer liability to the keeper. Meeting the timing schedule is just one requirement. Are you telling us you've checked the NtK against every PoFA requirement and it meets each of them?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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