Seriously.....

Curlyben

This has got to be the most unprofessional demand for a PCN ever, not only is the font horrendous and bad to read, but they misrepresent the facts, as to be expected.
Least we have concrete evidence of their justification for the added "double recovery" charges.

BREAKDOWN OF OUTSTANDING BALANCE

The Parking Charge Notice has been referred to ourselves for debt recovery action as payment in settlement of the same has not been made; consequently, the outstanding balance of' the Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00. The outstanding  balance is made up of £100.00 being the original unpaid Parking Charge Notice, together with £70.00 which  has been accrued in accordance with Clause 24.1 (b) of the British Parking Association Approved Operator Scheme (of which Premier Park Ltd is a member) Code of Practice. Clause 23.1 (b) sets out  'Where  a Parking  Charge becomes overdue  and before Court  Proceedings  have commenced,  a reasonable  sum
(which covers the cost of recovering debt) may be added for the debt recovery fees. This  sum must not exceed £70 unless prior approval from the BPA has been granted.'

BrownTrout

Pp legal just another name for premier park. this will end up with bw legal

Curlyben

Yep, already have a case with them.
Just sharing for others and for a Sunday laugh...

beamerguy

Curlyben said:

This has got to be the most unprofessional demand for a PCN ever, not only is the font horrendous and bad to read, but they misrepresent the facts, as to be expected.
Least we have concrete evidence of their justification for the added "double recovery" charges.

BREAKDOWN OF OUTSTANDING BALANCE

The Parking Charge Notice has been referred to ourselves for debt recovery action as payment in settlement of the same has not been made; consequently, the outstanding balance of' the Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00. The outstanding  balance is made up of £100.00 being the original unpaid Parking Charge Notice, together with £70.00 which  has been accrued in accordance with Clause 24.1 (b) of the British Parking Association Approved Operator Scheme (of which Premier Park Ltd is a member) Code of Practice. Clause 23.1 (b) sets out  'Where  a Parking  Charge becomes overdue  and before Court  Proceedings  have commenced,  a reasonable  sum
(which covers the cost of recovering debt) may be added for the debt recovery fees. This  sum must not exceed £70 unless prior approval from the BPA has been granted.'

OMG at last one of these clowns  have come out with the reason THEY THINK they can add false amounts to a claim.  The BPA code of practice is only applicable to parking companies ... NOT YOU or indeed a court judge
IT IS NOT A LAW and there is no contract for the motorist.  This section of the code of practice tells parking companies to break the law of POFA2012 and is in denial of the ruling of the Supreme Court

READ HOW THE BPA AND IPC entice their members to break the law
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6083229/bpa-cop-clause-19-9-and-34-8
As judges are now dismissing the false add-on as unlawful, onw wonders why the BPA think they are above the law ???

Ever heard of Edward Lear ??  he wrote nonsense poems like The Owl and the !!!!!!-cat.
This section of the BPA code of practice makes Edward Lear seem sensible ??
As the code of practice is not a law, you should be asking them on what LEGAL AUTHORITY do they have to add false amounts and break the law.

Curlyben

@beamerguy
Thought you might like that

beamerguy

Curlyben said:

@beamerguy
Thought you might like that

I did because it is another case of pure BPA rubbish

D_P_Dance

Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00.

At least £70 of which is unlawful, read this

Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00.

and report the solicitor to the SRA

https://www.sra.org.uk/

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

  

Curlyben

D_P_Dance said:

Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00.

At least £70 of which is unlawful, read this

Parking Charge Notice currently stands at £170.00.

and report the solicitor to the SRA

https://www.sra.org.uk/

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

  

All over it, unfortunately the legislation doesn't really go far enough. That being said PoFA coupled with the Beavis case have helped to clarify the PPCs limits on lawful charges. There is a time and a place for PPCs and there are some reasonable companies out there, as with the clampers, it's the very small percentage that gives the rest of the industry such a bad name.

Half_way

Use it as a base to file a complaint against the landowner??

Curlyben

Half_way said:

Use it as a base to file a complaint against the landowner??

In this case a moot point as the PPC has already lost the business and be replaced by a far more reasonable company.

Coupon-mad

There is a time and a place for PPCs and there are some reasonable companies out there, as with the clampers, it's the very small percentage that gives the rest of the industry such a bad name.

I disagree.  The entire industry is rotten and I can think of no reasonable company.

In this case a moot point as the PPC has already lost the business and be replaced by a far more reasonable company.

 There is no such thing.  Honestly, there are none.