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theGrinch

Opened an unpaid case, but is there a way to leave negative feedback on people that win auctions and do not pay or reply to messages?
Tried to leave feedback but it doesn't seem possible from my navigation

soolin

theGrinch said:

Opened an unpaid case, but is there a way to leave negative feedback on people that win auctions and do not pay or reply to messages?
Tried to leave feedback but it doesn't seem possible from my navigation

A seller can’t leave anything other than a positive, so if you haven’t already left feedback leave nothing, do not be tempted to leave a positive with a neg comment as it can be removed and you get a warning. Also, buyer just gets another  green dot to increase their score.

However , these strikes cause a buyer an issue if they get more than 2 as most sellers will block buyers with 2 or more strikes in a year. If you haven’t already done that then go through your seller settings and tick that option. That basically means if they make a habit of not paying they find themselves unable to buy on eBay. 

tuggy12

Sorry misposted

tuggy12

Sorry! Misposted again. Still having problems with new site.

pinkshoes

theGrinch said:

Opened an unpaid case, but is there a way to leave negative feedback on people that win auctions and do not pay or reply to messages?
Tried to leave feedback but it doesn't seem possible from my navigation

You don’t need to leave feedback. If they don’t pay I’m 4 days, close the case and they will get a strike which will limit their account.

if they do pay, leave a sarcastic positive saying “thank you for eventually paying “! (Or leave no FB at all)

[Deleted User]

adindas said:

 A seller is threatening to raise and unpaid strike. If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to write a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a feedback positive but the Contents is negative, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it?

why are you in this situation? Did you win an auction and now don't want to go ahead with payment? I too would raise an unpaid item strike if someone failed to pay. Unpaying buyers fail to realise the time wasted with having to relist an auction and if there are other bidders they don't always want the item in the end so offering the item to another buyer doesn't always work. I've had to relist many items in the past that have been won and not paid for and nearly every time I've always got far less when relisting the item again 2nd time around. Depending on your situation you shouldn't have bid if you didn't intend to go through with the transaction.

[Deleted User]

Were these items at auction or BIN? This doesn't make sense as if you pay seperately then each item will be with added postage so you end up paying more. If you buy with a combined invoice then the seller should give a discounted postage and you only pay once for postage. If I was the seller and you had bought multiple items and did not contact me then I would send through a combined invoice. If you did not pay and then sent me a request to pay for each item individually then I would ask you why you wanted to do this and also how long it would take you to pay as it appears you do not have the funds to pay for what you have bought or wanted to have a certain amount of time to pay for goods. In some cases I have had people bid and win multiple auctions say 7 items, then they send me a message stating that they will pay for all at once within 7-10 days. For me this is fine, but if they were to start asking me to request an individual invoice for each item then to me it appears like they have wanted the items but not had funds in place and to me this just has trouble written all over it. You have to see it from a sellers point of view. They want to be paid especially at a time like this when many people are lacking funds and sales have more than likely slowed down badly.

soolin

adindas said:

Daveym79 said:

adindas said:

 A seller is threatening to raise and unpaid strike. If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to write a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a feedback positive but the Contents is negative, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it?

why are you in this situation? Did you win an auction and now don't want to go ahead with payment? I too would raise an unpaid item strike if someone failed to pay. Unpaying buyers fail to realise the time wasted with having to relist an auction and if there are other bidders they don't always want the item in the end so offering the item to another buyer doesn't always work. I've had to relist many items in the past that have been won and not paid for and nearly every time I've always got far less when relisting the item again 2nd time around. Depending on your situation you shouldn't have bid if you didn't intend to go through with the transaction.

I also, already in the situation where I waste time to bid and the seller suddenly cancel the item after I won it and return the payment, so I fully understand the frustration from the seller pov. 

But I am a serious buyer with 1000+ 100% positive feedbac, so I will explain it as it is a good legitimate question and I fully understand where you are coming from.

The seller automatically sends me an invoice a total payment of a few items I have bought from the same seller. I do not want to pay the total sum in one go, so I am asking the seller to separate them to have the ability to pay for each individual item, instead of paying it in one go.

Combined postage, must pay in one go if win several items are not on the auction description. I have mentioned to seller that I never ask for a total, I want to pay each item individually. We have exchanged a message a few times where I have kept my tone sounds neutral. But s/he just does not want to understand and keep mentioning of using "the unpaid strike" threat if it is not paid by a specific time mentioned by him/her.

So I am thinking of paying it in one go as s/he wishes and later return the item using eBay machanism with reason "not as described" (combined postage,must pay in one go is not on the auction description !)

So you would make a fraudulent SNAD claim, I think it is a brave buyer who comes on here and admits to being ‘that ‘ sort of buyer! 

Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time.

although not wanting to pay in one go seems petty at best. 

soolin

adindas said:

Bsoolin said:

adindas said:

Daveym79 said:

adindas said:

 A seller is threatening to raise and unpaid strike. If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to write a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a feedback positive but the Contents is negative, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it?

why are you in this situation? Did you win an auction and now don't want to go ahead with payment? I too would raise an unpaid item strike if someone failed to pay. Unpaying buyers fail to realise the time wasted with having to relist an auction and if there are other bidders they don't always want the item in the end so offering the item to another buyer doesn't always work. I've had to relist many items in the past that have been won and not paid for and nearly every time I've always got far less when relisting the item again 2nd time around. Depending on your situation you shouldn't have bid if you didn't intend to go through with the transaction.

I also, already in the situation where I waste time to bid and the seller suddenly cancel the item after I won it and return the payment, so I fully understand the frustration from the seller pov. 

But I am a serious buyer with 1000+ 100% positive feedbac, so I will explain it as it is a good legitimate question and I fully understand where you are coming from.

The seller automatically sends me an invoice a total payment of a few items I have bought from the same seller. I do not want to pay the total sum in one go, so I am asking the seller to separate them to have the ability to pay for each individual item, instead of paying it in one go.

Combined postage, must pay in one go if win several items are not on the auction description. I have mentioned to seller that I never ask for a total, I want to pay each item individually. We have exchanged a message a few times where I have kept my tone sounds neutral. But s/he just does not want to understand and keep mentioning of using "the unpaid strike" threat if it is not paid by a specific time mentioned by him/her.

So I am thinking of paying it in one go as s/he wishes and later return the item using eBay machanism with reason "not as described" (combined postage,must pay in one go is not on the auction description !)

So you would make a fraudulent SNAD claim, I think it is a brave buyer who comes on here and admits to being ‘that ‘ sort of buyer! 

Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time.

although not wanting to pay in one go seems petty at best. 

I donot understand this bit

"Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time."

Is there a way I myself seperate the item, to pay seperately if the seller have sent an invoice (Combined all of the item)? 

Also, the point here is that where must pay in one go if win several items is not on the auction description, neither s/he requests for a total invoice, then the option should be avaialbe to buyer. The buyer does not even needs to waste time to expain it why.

If you fiddle about with the original notifications or even with the pay now button it should still be possible to pay separately .

SNAD relates to the item, Significantly Not as Described, it has nothing to do with the seller wanting to send items together. 

If paying separately bothers you so much in future just pay for each item immediately it sells, don’t wait for seller to send a combined invoice.  Also, if you prefer to walk away on principle then I think all these NPB claims only count once , (I’m assuming these all sold in a few minutes ) so you will only have one strike which should not prevent you from buying from other sellers.

[Deleted User]

if they want to, the seller can uncombine an invoice even if it has been sent and send individually but why would they want to do this when they are more than likely giving you a postage discount to send all items at once. Just for example, If they charge £7.00 to send 5 items but you want each individual item seperately then it well cost £2.50 to send each individual item so the seller is helping you with a discount. They shouldn't have to assume a seller wants invoices sent individually as this doesn't make sense but a seller can arrange this for you if that is what you want and therefore you have to explain it and maybe why. I would want to know why since to me it says you did not have enough funds in your account to purchase these items at the time but didn't want other people to win these auctions either, so now you want more time to pay. That isn't really how ebay works unless you have a nice seller that agrees. What you should have done was ask if this was possible to do prior to bidding. Unfortunately it is buyers like you that can really make life very difficult for sellers.

soolin

adindas said:

soolin said:

adindas said:

Bsoolin said:

adindas said:

Daveym79 said:

adindas said:

 A seller is threatening to raise and unpaid strike. If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to write a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a feedback positive but the Contents is negative, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it?

why are you in this situation? Did you win an auction and now don't want to go ahead with payment? I too would raise an unpaid item strike if someone failed to pay. Unpaying buyers fail to realise the time wasted with having to relist an auction and if there are other bidders they don't always want the item in the end so offering the item to another buyer doesn't always work. I've had to relist many items in the past that have been won and not paid for and nearly every time I've always got far less when relisting the item again 2nd time around. Depending on your situation you shouldn't have bid if you didn't intend to go through with the transaction.

I also, already in the situation where I waste time to bid and the seller suddenly cancel the item after I won it and return the payment, so I fully understand the frustration from the seller pov. 

But I am a serious buyer with 1000+ 100% positive feedbac, so I will explain it as it is a good legitimate question and I fully understand where you are coming from.

The seller automatically sends me an invoice a total payment of a few items I have bought from the same seller. I do not want to pay the total sum in one go, so I am asking the seller to separate them to have the ability to pay for each individual item, instead of paying it in one go.

Combined postage, must pay in one go if win several items are not on the auction description. I have mentioned to seller that I never ask for a total, I want to pay each item individually. We have exchanged a message a few times where I have kept my tone sounds neutral. But s/he just does not want to understand and keep mentioning of using "the unpaid strike" threat if it is not paid by a specific time mentioned by him/her.

So I am thinking of paying it in one go as s/he wishes and later return the item using eBay machanism with reason "not as described" (combined postage,must pay in one go is not on the auction description !)

So you would make a fraudulent SNAD claim, I think it is a brave buyer who comes on here and admits to being ‘that ‘ sort of buyer! 

Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time.

although not wanting to pay in one go seems petty at best. 

I donot understand this bit

"Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time."

Is there a way I myself seperate the item, to pay seperately if the seller have sent an invoice (Combined all of the item)? 

Also, the point here is that where must pay in one go if win several items is not on the auction description, neither s/he requests for a total invoice, then the option should be avaialbe to buyer. The buyer does not even needs to waste time to expain it why.

If you fiddle about with the original notifications or even with the pay now button it should still be possible to pay separately .

SNAD relates to the item, Significantly Not as Described, it has nothing to do with the seller wanting to send items together. 

If paying separately bothers you so much in future just pay for each item immediately it sells, don’t wait for seller to send a combined invoice.  Also, if you prefer to walk away on principle then I think all these NPB claims only count once , (I’m assuming these all sold in a few minutes ) so you will only have one strike which should not prevent you from buying from other sellers.

soolin said:

adindas said:

Bsoolin said:

adindas said:

Daveym79 said:

adindas said:

 A seller is threatening to raise and unpaid strike. If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to write a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a feedback positive but the Contents is negative, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it?

why are you in this situation? Did you win an auction and now don't want to go ahead with payment? I too would raise an unpaid item strike if someone failed to pay. Unpaying buyers fail to realise the time wasted with having to relist an auction and if there are other bidders they don't always want the item in the end so offering the item to another buyer doesn't always work. I've had to relist many items in the past that have been won and not paid for and nearly every time I've always got far less when relisting the item again 2nd time around. Depending on your situation you shouldn't have bid if you didn't intend to go through with the transaction.

I also, already in the situation where I waste time to bid and the seller suddenly cancel the item after I won it and return the payment, so I fully understand the frustration from the seller pov. 

But I am a serious buyer with 1000+ 100% positive feedbac, so I will explain it as it is a good legitimate question and I fully understand where you are coming from.

The seller automatically sends me an invoice a total payment of a few items I have bought from the same seller. I do not want to pay the total sum in one go, so I am asking the seller to separate them to have the ability to pay for each individual item, instead of paying it in one go.

Combined postage, must pay in one go if win several items are not on the auction description. I have mentioned to seller that I never ask for a total, I want to pay each item individually. We have exchanged a message a few times where I have kept my tone sounds neutral. But s/he just does not want to understand and keep mentioning of using "the unpaid strike" threat if it is not paid by a specific time mentioned by him/her.

So I am thinking of paying it in one go as s/he wishes and later return the item using eBay machanism with reason "not as described" (combined postage,must pay in one go is not on the auction description !)

So you would make a fraudulent SNAD claim, I think it is a brave buyer who comes on here and admits to being ‘that ‘ sort of buyer! 

Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time.

although not wanting to pay in one go seems petty at best. 

I donot understand this bit

"Just pay each item separately, if you know enough about eBay to consider using it fraudulently then you should be able to work out how to use the original notification to pay one at a time."

Is there a way I myself seperate the item, to pay seperately if the seller have sent an invoice (Combined all of the item)? 

Also, the point here is that where must pay in one go if win several items is not on the auction description, neither s/he requests for a total invoice, then the option should be avaialbe to buyer. The buyer does not even needs to waste time to expain it why.

If you fiddle about with the original notifications or even with the pay now button it should still be possible to pay separately .

SNAD relates to the item, Significantly Not as Described, it has nothing to do with the seller wanting to send items together. 

If paying separately bothers you so much in future just pay for each item immediately it sells, don’t wait for seller to send a combined invoice.  Also, if you prefer to walk away on principle then I think all these NPB claims only count once , (I’m assuming these all sold in a few minutes ) so you will only have one strike which should not prevent you from buying from other sellers.

I am not quite sure about this. I remembered I have tried that but that option is simply not there if the seller has combined the payment. Everytime I tried it it always comes with total purchase.

I have similar problem previously and the solution is to ask the seller to remove the combine payment.

Now back to original question:

If I finally pay the item is there any way that the seller could still be able to raise an “unpaid strike”?

I understand a seller will not be able to leave a negative feedback to buyer. If a seller is marking it as a positive feedback but with a negative comment, what will be the consequences to the seller if I reported it eBay and asking eBay to remove it? Will s/he get warning automativally ??

If you pay then seller can’t later open an NPB, if they leave you a negative comment you can get it removed and seller may get a warning.

However if you make a fraudulent SNAD claim then seller can report you to eBay and you might get a warning on your account t and also, if they can be bothered, they can use legal means outside of eBay to recover losses from you.