Athena ANPR Ltd and KFC advice required

Forty45

So do I Appeal or not?? Surely no harm in doing so as long what I say is consistent.

Umkomaas

Forty45 said:

Umkomaas said:

Yes, to show that you are following process. Use the template in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, first post. 

You have scrubbed the dates from your NtK - dates are important in the context of PoFA - please state the date of the parking incident and the 'Date of Sending' (as shown by Athena). 

Incident was 23/2/20 and DoS (Issue date) 25/2/20.

Within PoFA limits, no mileage there. Follow advice from Coupon-mad. 

Coupon-mad

Forty45 said:

So do I Appeal or not?? Surely no harm in doing so as long what I say is consistent.

Yes, but please stop posting with questions about a pointless thing, and do the thing that will cancel it!

Forty45

Okay, but just bear in mind that I'm learning here and there is a lot to take in.
My Land Registry search reveals the Landowner is a company registered in Jersey. No website etc.  I've also found that one of it's director's is also a director of the company which holds the KFC franchise for the location. 

Forty45

Update - complaint to the landowner/franchise holder has resulted in them contacting Athena. They have come back to me saying Athena will drop the "charge" but want a £20 admin fee!  Is this a new tactic?
How should I respond?

Coupon-mad

Only you can decide whether to accept that one-off figure.  They are trying to cover their minor admin/postage costs and a lot of PPCs do this.  If you refuse, Athena don't sue people at the time of writing but have 6 years like any other company or person, to bring any case to small claims, they just don't at the time of writing and, as such, probably won't change that position. 

So ignoring them is an option too as long as you tell them if you move house, so they have your current address at all times, just in case they break the habit of a lifetime and send a claim in a couple of years.

Forty45

Concluded - after getting a follow-up demand I reluctantly decided to pay the £20. My wife wanted it settled, the Council hadn't answered my questions on permission for ANPR use, and I didn't want to find myself being the person Athena decided to sue when I had the chance to settle for much less.
Thanks for the advice and keep up the good work!

D_P_Dance

I would rate your chances at considerably better than 50%, judges are not fools, they can sniff out a scam when they see one.  

Umkomaas

Forty45 said:

Concluded - after getting a follow-up demand I reluctantly decided to pay the £20. My wife wanted it settled, the Council hadn't answered my questions on permission for ANPR use, and I didn't want to find myself being the person Athena decided to sue when I had the chance to settle for much less.
Thanks for the advice and keep up the good work!

Well it's now over for you. A pragmatic decision that suits you in the circumstances. 

What were you trying to achieve regarding planning permission for ANPR cameras?  It was never going to change a single thing in relation to your parking charge. In any case, almost always, councils provide PPCs with retrospective planning permission. 

D_P_Dance

That is the problem, highly paid intelligent people pay these just to save their precious time.  My son has paid several.