Dangerous or am I being paranoid?

red_eye

Ok so I’m working under a car when management shout “out the way” and immediately start to lower the ramp not giving me time to get out.
i shouted that I’m still under his response was “I told you to move”.
i have raised a grevience and was told it would be considered, but from what I have seen is management can pretty much do anything and get away with it.

I have been looking on hse web site but can find anything regards operating a vehicle lift with someone underneath.
what would be the next step if my grevence is unsuccessful?

and yes I’m looking for another job
thanks in advance

lincroft1710

Why would the manager want to lower the ramp if someone was still working on the car on that ramp?

As there appears to have been no injury to yourself, then don't expect much from the grievance, the manager will probably have an answer for his actions

Andy_L

red_eye said:

what would be the next step if my grevence is unsuccessful?

and yes I’m looking for another job
thanks in advance

Report him to the HSE
https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/concerns.htm

red_eye

But I can’t find any info on this on hse website, don’t want to make a complaint and find that there’s nothing to complain about. I have done the webnote thing but it takes them up to 30 days to answer I’ll see if I get a chance to ring on my brake tomorrow 

red_eye

lincroft1710 said:

Why would the manager want to lower the ramp if someone was still working on the car on that ramp?

As there appears to have been no injury to yourself, then don't expect much from the grievance, the manager will probably have an answer for his actions

That’s what’s getting to me, why would anyone lower a ramp with a lethal weight on top of some one. It’s not proper workshop procedure, just need to find out what hse thinks but navigating government website you lose the will to live

tacpot12

You are not being paranoid. You need to have a cup of tea with "management" and tell them quietly that starting to lower a lift with someone underneath is not a safe way of working. Ask them never to move the lift until they are certain that the area is clear of people and equipment.  

If they do it again, report them to the HSE, and then, buy a padlock and lock the isolator off so that the lift can't be moved while you are under the lift. 

RichardD1970

tacpot12 said:

You are not being paranoid. You need to have a cup of tea with "management" and tell them quietly that starting to lower a lift with someone underneath is not a safe way of working. Ask them never to move the lift until they are certain that the area is clear of people and equipment.  

If they do it again, report them to the HSE, and then, buy a padlock and lock the isolator off so that the lift can't be moved while you are under the lift. 

I would definitely look into this.

Where I work there is a stringent "lock out" procedure for people entering robot cells or other dangerous areas, which will prevent anyone staring any machinery whist someone is in a vulnerable position. Failure to follow it is gross misconduct.

theoretica

red_eye said:

But I can’t find any info on this on hse website, don’t want to make a complaint and find that there’s nothing to complain about.

The HSE won't have listed every ridiculous dangerous thing on their website, but I am pretty sure this comes under the heading of not safe.

TELLIT01

If management have such a poor attitude towards safety I would be looking to get out of there as soon as possible.

General_Grant

TELLIT01 said:

If management have such a poor attitude towards safety I would be looking to get out of there as soon as possible.

The OP includes "and yes I’m looking for another job".

Alfrescodave

Were there any witnesses to this idiotic action otherwise it will always be your word against his.? Also they need to be willing to publicly say what happened which could cause job security issues