My Hellish Day in Court (with the threat of a possible appeal)

beamerguy

Snakes_Belly said:

"The circuit judge agreed that the Dammerman test had been met because I was able to show from video & photos that the 'ambient lighting' was insufficient - not least because 2 of the 4 street lamps they were relying on weren't working"

Posters on the forum should never underestimate the importance of visual aids.

Like it, and the daft legals and parking companies think this forum is full of keyboard warriors ??

FOOLS ?

Jomot

beamerguy said:

Snakes_Belly said:

"The circuit judge agreed that the Dammerman test had been met because I was able to show from video & photos that the 'ambient lighting' was insufficient - not least because 2 of the 4 street lamps they were relying on weren't working"

Posters on the forum should never underestimate the importance of visual aids.

Like it, and the daft legals and parking companies think this forum is full of keyboard warriors ??

FOOLS ?

If I can say anything to help others in the same situation it would be to take a video.  In fact no, take several, and bombard them with screen grabs (they don't provide for uploading video on the appeals portals).

Because it was pitch black it was impossible to take any meaningful photos without a flash, and of course the flash makes it all seem so much brighter. What won it was the video, taken very slowly from within the carpark & showing a full 360 degree view, along with another video showing the car approach, enter & park without a single sign coming into view.  

I also did 'belt & braces' by submitting them to court by USB and a link, and also taking my laptop with me - which is just as well, as even though the court staff had confirmed they could get them to play OK, the judge on the day couldn't, so we had to rely on my laptop - not easy in these Covid times.  I did the same with the screen-grabs, as by the time they'd been photocopied most were fairly useless.

Coupon-mad

Well done!